5 points

“United” States stands divided. It just gets worse…and at an incredible speed. It’s always quicker and easier to demolish as opposed to building. Every one wants the easy money and the quick buck without a balanced expenditure of energy.

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All hail The New California Republic. But in all seriousness, it wouldn’t surprise me if the United States has a balkanization event happen in the near future.

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The US does not need balkanization.

We have a single region that has been rebellious and trying to corrupt and destroy the rest of the union since the founding, because they cannot see any governmental or religious structure as legitimate unless it is founded on the principles of racism. This is their own words.

Lincoln was wrong to readmit the south, we should have let Sherman finish then build a wall around them, while letting any slaves who wanted to escape do so.

Either that or we need to restart reconstruction today with absolute brutality.

Before they committed treason against the US alone, this time they allied with Russia to bring us down.

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We have a single region that has been rebellious and trying to corrupt and destroy the rest of the union since the founding

Isn’t a ton of the current Trump administration rot coming from Silicon Valley?

Isn’t Silicon Valley in California?

Lincoln was wrong to readmit the south

The South was under the Reconstruction plan, complete with Marshall Law and Freedman’s Bureaus and all sorts of additional federal oversight, untilThe Compromise of 1877 gave Rutherford B. Hayes the presidency at the cost of his soul.

Lincoln didn’t simply readmit the South. He readmitted 9 million enslaved Americans as proper first class citizens. And the initial wave of democratization gave birth to a brief but generally optimistic egalitarian glimpse of a potential future.

Lincoln’s big mistake was not putting Smedly Butler into his VP seat. Letting the country revert to Andrew Johnson was the big blunder. One that Grant had to spend two terms mopping up.

But that’s all distant history. The modern fascist presidency is born out of Manhattan Island. The modern Texas/Florida/Ohio Axis of Evil is a product of Yale Business School. Stanford Alumni are fucking us up far more today than some Daughters of the Confederacy could have dreamed.

This isn’t a North/South problem. It’s a turf war between extractive industry and the professional class.

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Yeah, because if there’s two things we know silicon valley loves it’s the core issues of the Trump administrafion:

  1. Immigration restrictions

  2. Tariffs

He was voted in purely about the south, who are not only fascists to the core (if what they consider to be Christo-fascists).

The thing is: their religion, the southern Baptist church, was founded because they wanted a religion whose core dogma was that slavery was a commandment from God. Hence their basing the Sbc around the curse of Ham justifying slavery. The nazis themselves based the Nuremberg Laws off Jim crow, only without the 1 drop rule.

This is 100% the south, the restriction of women’s rights, the anti-lgbt, racism, isolation ism.

They’ve been sold that Russia is their best ally because it is the last True (read: white) Christian Nation fighting against the atheist and Muslim hordes who have infested Europe.

Silicon valley doesn’t want any of this bullshit, they just want less regulation. This has been a nightmare for them, Europe is starting their own competitors and regulating the cloud providers.

Silicon valley is smart, this whole thing has the backwards inbred balls-over-brains energy of the south.

Show me one Manhattan anyone who thinks those tariffs are a good idea.

Super popular in the south though, finally those rich northerners will have to pay them to do the work, instead of buying stuff from the dirty Mexicans.

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4 points

*Benjamin Butler

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I dont think the lines are the same anymore. Social media and 24/7 news has given people in plenty of northern regions the same viewpoints. A civil war would not be north vs. south. it would be neighbor vs neighbor

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I always hear this.

I am brown and grew up in the Midwest.

Then my family moved to the south.

This is like comparing Canadians who care about hockey with the Khmer Rouge exterminating much of their population.

The south is just infinitely worse in literally every way.

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Reminds me of east and west germany, even still today, one side is poorer than the other, which fostered new radicalism.

And also where i live, Quebec, poorer rural regions control the elections.

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Exactly, the difference is in east Germany after the war they mostly dealt with the nazis.

In the south they gave them a timeout for 10 years then let them take power again.

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2 points

And so it moves closer to the handmaids tale every day

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2 points

I lived in the south, if they could read they’d consider it a fantasy utopia.

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12 points

I don’t get why Oregon and Washington haven’t jumped on that bandwagon. Imagine the entire west coast working together. All Western seaports.

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7 points

There is a Cascadia Independence movement but it’s not widely talked about.

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3 points

It’s fairly widely known along the west coast. No one treats it like a serious movement, but like a “man, that would be nice” kind of thing.

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2 points

It’s also fairly right wing, last I looked into it.

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5 points

The two heads representing the east and west coasts, obviously (please let us join you, California, when you go).

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72 points

While I agree with telling Trump to go lick Elon’s balls, states are specifically forbidden from entering into trade agreements with foreign countries by the Constitution. To do this, California would need to be willing to secede from the Union. I’m okay with it.

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You’re implying the constitution has any weight right now (it doesn’t)

I’d say fuckin do it

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23 points

It depends on who’s breaking the law/constitution.

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At this point it’s hardly the law and the constitution. These are just unpredictable whims of the people in power.

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11 points

California produces 10% of American agricultural needs. If they secede it would be way worse on the economy than these tariffs.

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I think if California were to secede, Oregon and Washington probably would too. A lot of blue states that border Canada would also probably Jump ship. New York and Michigan might secede too. Those 5 states make up almost 30% of America’s economy and are the center of very lucrative industries like the movie industry, automotive industry, electronics and software industries, the global financial industry. Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them.

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Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them.

well no, the US would still be 60-70% of the total US economy without them lmao.

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2 points

depending on which produce item its significantly higher

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I’m genuinely curious on how realistic this is… I can’t imagine it’s a simple process, but like what would need to happen for California to become it’s own country?

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To do so legally, Constitutional Convention. 2/3 of states would have to agree to let it go. And everyone would have to hammer out what happens to federal assets inside the state.

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the same thing for texas to become it’s own country, that said, it’s not happening.

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There is basically zero chance they successfully secede. There is however a slightly above zero chance they seriously try.

California trying to secede would be stupid enough to make Trump look like a top mensa candidate.

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At the moment, California is taking signatures for studying a “CALexit” plan. It is about 500,000 signatures by July for a successful petition. After that, California starts to study the costs, opportunities, logistics, and other aspects of leaving the union.

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The best I could tell from the article was that all he was doing was essentially lobbying foriegn countries to tailor their responses so that they hurt california less than other states. I can’t see any law blocking that. From what I could tell he wasn’t even offering anything real in exchange.

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And it’s the same for the European union. European states can’t get trade agreements by themselves. So when you read “Italy is ready to talk with trump” is just sucking dick

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Merkel had to explain that to Trump 11 times last time he was president. I bet he forgot it again.

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Not really a matter of forgetting. Trump was a leading advocate for Brexit. He wants to see the EU dissolved.

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Texas couldn’t secede, probably because it’s a red state…how amazing would it be if California became it’s own country with actual progressive laws. I for one would allow it. Let them become Canada, Mexico or even it’s own. Do it Cali!

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2 points

Let’s do it.

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As i read this, i am remembered of Newsom meeting Trump, after he refused to help with Californian wildfires.

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18 points

Why they all leaning forward except Newsom? lol

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29 points

People misinterpret this image. Newsom isn’t point at Trump, he’s keeping the stack of people from falling over.

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Fake news. Some journo hack used photoshop. Here’s the original, with Trup standing true and strong despite them all being on a hillside.

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8 points

Skills mate, you got them. Nice one.

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Newsom’s gravity powers are pulling them in. They can’t help it

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Smooth criminals?

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Smoothbrain criminals. “America has been hit by…struck by a smoothbrain criminal!”

[Chorus]

America, are you okay? (I don’t know)

Will you tell us that you’re okay? (I don’t know)

There’s a felon at the window (I don’t know)

Then Trump struck you, a crescendo America? (I don’t know)

Trump came onto your apartment (I don’t know)

Left white stains on the carpet (I don’t know why, baby)

And then she ran into the bedroom (Help me)

She were struck down

It was your doom America (Dag gone it)

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They’re clearly exiting the plane and trying to keep the line moving.

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Why does that look like a photo of a bunch of Nazis?

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Maybe Cali could make an agreement to join Canada or EU.

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You’ll need easy access to Canada. What better way than to have a close Canadian Province? - Wa state

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