I get that it’s open source provided you use codium not code but I still find that interesting

210 points

Because the hate is based on their shitty OS. They did a fairly good job with VSCode. Our hate isn’t blind.

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VScode is the epitome of the EEE strategy. The core product is open-source, but it’s filled to the brim with tracking and the official extensions have DRM. Yes, there’s DRM on your python LSP.

Anyone who gives a shit should look for alternatives right away. The problem is just that there aren’t any that are as easy to set up.

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I think, I should switch to Codium for personal projects. Let’s hope there is a binary package on Gentoo.

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I mean, you probably already have electron compiled, no?

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Shouldn’t using VSCodium solve the telemetry problem?

Aren’t there FOSS linters which work for VSCodium?

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4 points

And what would that DRM do?

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Make sure that the addons can only be used by VScode. There’s vscodium for now, but microsoft could easily shut that down.

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Thank god I do not use python.

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Not hate in my case, but I don’t like ms and it’s because of the shit they have done in 90s and 2000s. Their current support of linux is not something I trust.

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@tomten @snek is linux your son or something?

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My baby actually. Look, MS is a powerful company and they’re making a lot of desperate strategic purchases as their main business corrodes. Their brand is more based on gaming. Their infrastructure? The cloud and github. They’ve got the butter and they’re looking for bread to slap it across.

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Apparently in OP’s case it is.

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131 points

I hate Google but they gave us Go, Kubernetes. I hate Amazon but they gave us AWS. I plainly hate those companies, but adore the brilliant engineers that work there.

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Yet most project uses GitHub too you know…

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This one is a bigger issue. One of the projects I used to contribute to moved to Gitlab, and saw a significant decrease in organic contributors. GitHub simply has more users, better SEO, and a better ecosystem

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Personally, I’d like for everything to be on Codeberg or something but I guess that’s far away.

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True but GitHub wasn’t always Microsoft and at least in my experience moving between git providers is a pain

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GitHub has been recognized as harmful to the free software community at least as early as 2015, years before the Microsoft acquisition. See RMS email on GitHub.

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There is more than enough freedom in GitHub to set a license as you see fit. Stallman is being obtuse.

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How is it a pain? You just change the origin on your existing project, and new projects you just use the new one to start with.

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The pain is with the migration of a ci/cd template to another

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You gotta change the origin on every deployment you have. Update environment vars, reconfigure tools. You have to port all your PRs over somehow. Your issues. Your documentation. All the access keys. Etc.

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107 points

I only use vim.

i have been trapped for 2 years now… hope seems pointless

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you get trapped in Vim because you dont know how to exit.

i get trapped because ive sunk so much time configuring

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May your vimrc be passed down through the ages

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Its all I’m leaving my kids

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Agreed to the latter point. The only reason why I might not use vim is to copy-paste some code in and out of the file, in which case I prefer plain text editors.

With that said, I’m a purist who uses vim without any external plug-ins (other than the files I wrote myself in ftplugin). Use vim on a remote machine whilst SSHed into it from a windows machine and wanting to copy-paste stuff in and out is a major pain which is why I downloaded Vscode in the first place. This piece of cancer is not touching my linux machine.

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based asl for using vim without plugins. although what is difficult about copy/pasting? i think u can get vim to use the system clipboard with a command

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VSCode is the only Electron program I know of that does not feel like using McDonald’s kiosk on virtual machine over remote desktop.

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Over dailup

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I’m thinking of making an Android app with electron (NC I don’t know Java Kotlin whatever lmao) is performance that bad?

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Electron is for desktops OSes, so I think SE are talking about different things.

And it’s not only about performance, even when that programs are running on best machines it still looks like alien and not fit.

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