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I don’t have anyone in my personal live who is against veganism, but it feels like a nice resource to have. Bookmarked it!

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Glad you find it useful. If not in real life, you will probably encounter anti-vegans online at some point :)

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I feel the greatest power online is to simpliy not engage with the obvious assholes. Just click off their reply and forget about them.

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Non-asshole carnists can be great sparring-partners, though

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If you need a toolkit to make a good argument then maybe maybe your arguments aren’t that great?

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Good arguments often need to be carefully crafted to survive a morass of bad faith rhetoric.

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What nonsense is this? There are lots and lots of great arguments. So once you decide to step in the arena you need to learn to reply to the Vegan Bullshit Bingo (long press!).

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For me, personally, I will sometimes review information and then make a decision based on that without establishing a strong argument to use with other people. Something like this would be helpful if I feel I’m being challenged by someone but don’t have the words.

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It’s less that the arguments “aren’t that great” (they’re actually quite compelling) and more that vegans are constantly presented with the same bad-faith or grossly misinformed arguments over and over again. I think the idea of having pre-baked responses is fucking stupid and don’t use them, but as 99% of non-vegans use the same pre-baked arguments that have been factually debunked millions of times, I don’t blame anyone who chooses to do use the same tactic (except of course that these pre-baked responses actually make sense). “The non-vegans started it”, so to speak.

The idea of “ChatTFA” sickens me to my core, though, to a point where I considered removing this post before deciding it’s not technically misinformation; it’s just recommending misinformation. It’s really gross to suggest that people use it and only hurts veganism by making people who practice it mis/underinformed and making the people who might come to better understand it turned off when they realize the “person” they’re talking to is a shitty LLM.

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