Happy 30th Birthday “New Technology” File System! Thanks for 30 years of demonstrating Linux superiority with a gap that widens with every new kernel release 👍
I heard, this commercial distribution “Windows” still uses it. But this thing just recently got a (very limited) package manger. So they seem to be very late with adapting to current technology.
On the bright side it only very rarely destroys itself when updating. However, some very loud foss distributions do it fairly often.
It forces you to update and then works at “something something” for 5 minutes to 5 hours and then reboots and does the same thing again but after logging in, none of your applications are updated and also none of the system seems to be changed with the updates. You don’t even get proper status information during updates.
Of course it doesn’t destroy itself when it doesn’t change anything …
Oof this is only thing if you have the os on an HDD. I’ve had similar behavior on *buntu running off of an HDD.
On an sdd or nvme you’ll never have stuff like this happen.
There is an argument to be made for it being better ux to not have programs update without telling you. Winget isn’t perfect, but it can auto update your stuff if need be.
Was just helping my mom get some files off her old Windows Vista hard drive the other day. I was celebrating and didn’t even know it, lol
There’s nothing wrong with solid old file systems; ext4 is almost 17 and no one complains about it,
@Montagge @riskable @phoenix591 @proton_lynx It’s from Microsoft, it’s proprietary.
I got curious so did some quick research. I know very little about file systems and Windows. Found this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReFS I wonder what Microsoft wanted to improve upon or change?
Very slow, still needs defragmented, proprietary, (I know a lot of people don’t care about that but also a lot feel that proprietary software is malware) and is so unbelievably slow on hard drives. I know I said slow twice but god damn on a hard drive it’s rough. I know just get an SSD but I have a 2TB hard drive I keep my games on. It used to be on NTFS so I could dual-boot and not download a game twice but once I left windows I put ext4 on it and it helps a bit.
Nothing inherently wrong with NTFS itself as a filesystem besides being proprietary, and Microsoft supplies absolutely no support for using it in Linux. All the work done to get it running in Linux has been from the ground up and it shows. Many times I’ve had a hiccup on my external drives and they completely lock up until they’re repaired on a windows machine. Unfortunately NTFS is one of the only journaled file system that works on both Windows, Apple, and Linux.
There has also been a lot of advances for filesystems like checksumming so you know when you get bitrot. Or copy-on-write which can take snapshots of a file and then further changes are stored as the difference. You can then rollback to any snapshot you’ve taken.
Stuff shouldn’t include temporal or subjective aspects in their name like New Technology File System, Grand Unified Bootloader… that’s all I got but you get the idea.
I’m jumping industries here, but Nintendo could not get that out of their system for a while. A game titled “New Super Mario Bros.” came out in it’s first first iteration in 2006. It did quite well, so they kept making sequels, the most recent titled “New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe”. They also put out a couple game consoles with “New” at the beginning, if memory serves.
Ext4 came out 20 years ago.
No. No no no, I clearly remember I was sitting in my discrete math class at college reading my rss feeds when… Oh no.
