67 points

I thought memes were supposed to be funny… this just looks like a propaganda poster

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I mean, propaganda is technically a type of meme, isn’t it?

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And lithobreaking is technically a form of deceleration, but I wouldn’t exactly call it a safe way to land a rocket.

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6 points

who is the anti bad thing propaganda poster hurting?

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8 points

Since when are memes just about humor?

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Memes aren’t just about humour. But this is no humour at all

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Thank god I’m not the only one.

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Don’t got to political Memes then. Some of the worst propaganda slop there

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34 points

Maaaaaaybe the USSR isn’t the best example of a better society we want to be building.

I’m watching the whole ideological-purge thing happen in the US and it kinda sucks.

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Either build something better or shutup, I say. Unless you’re a big fan of Tsarist Russia

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I’ve played civilization and I’m pretty sure there’s other forms of government besides Communism and Monarchy that have low corruption, albeit lacking the ability to force the citizens into war on the leader’s whim.

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Isnt civilization the game where “democracy” has 0 corruption? I think its kinda biased and not exactly based on reality

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Lol, good bit.

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Corruption is a matter of individuals rather than the form of government. Any human system is bound to be corruptible since it involves humans.

I think a strong anti corruption culture is the best defense against it.

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How does one go about building their own government/economic system?

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The Soviet revolution managed it

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Both extremes on display those examples, seems like they both end up in the same place in the end. Maybe it would be reasonable to use any system that is a mix of things, instead of focusing on pure capitalism or communism.

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There’s really no such thing as a pure system, any mix is still going to have either the public sector as principle or private, ie which controls the state, large firms, and key industries. There’s no way to keep them “balanced,” one will have power over the other, and its best for it to be the public sector.

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23 points

Luigi’s hand doesn’t look anything like that. Someone fix this meme

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You’re not going to overthrow fascism, white supremacy or capitalism with random acts of adventurism. If you’re not more organized than your enemy they will crush you.

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I leave that to the plumber’s union.

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19 points

Socialism allows for both public and private ownership, individual freedoms, and democratic decision-making, while still aiming for social equality. Communism, in contrast, tends to involve total state control and often limits personal freedoms.

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Both Capitalism and Socialism have room for public and private ownership, the difference is which sector controls the state, large firms, and key industries. The Nordic Countries are dominated by Private Capital, ie it is Capitalist, while the PRC is dominated by Public Ownership, ie it is Socialist.

Communism limits the personal freedoms of the bourgeoisie. All Communism is, is a more developed and global form of Socialism, where the small firms that once were private have all grown into the public sector or collapsed.

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Tell me you’ve never read anything about communism that wasn’t written by anti-communists without telling me you’ve never read anything about communism that wasn’t written by anti-communists.

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Jesus what a mess of a sentence. You really tried to hamfist that one in there.

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Well I will agree that your average 16 year-old is more well read then the person I replied to.

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The bourgies owning the means of production means a handful of evil vampires have all the power

Makes it always shit

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Limits personal freedoms only for the owning class. If you’re not a landlord or ceo you have nothing to fear.

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How are you going to secure your commune from external enemies without invoking authority?

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The Black Book of Communism was debunked long ago, from including Nazis killed during World War II as “victims of Communism” to literally making up numbers to get to 100 million dead to being outright disproven once the Soviet Archives were opened up.

There were excess deaths, but Communist leaders weren’t mindless butchers, either. And with the introduction of Socialism came numerous benefits for the working class, like a doubling of life expectancy, tripling of literacy rates to 99.9%, free and high quality education, healthcare, and childcare, an expansion in women’s rights, a democratization of the economy, and much more.

Anarchism is a beautiful idea, and I used to be one. However, I am more convinced of Marxism, namely because we have more data that shows the success of Marxism, and because hierarchy and centralization are requirements for expansive infrastructure projects like high speed rail and for complex production, such as for smartphones.

I have an introductory Marxist-Leninist Reading List you can check out, if you’d like to learn more.

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Yeah I didn’t consider the nazis but they are just lackeys for the landlords and ceos so I mentally put them in there. Ofc nazis have to fear communism too.

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All this things sound great, we just need humanity to not be shitty to each other.

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The desire to dominate and the willingness to act on it has existed in a fraction of the population since before humans were human. This is the root of all evil, capitalism is a specific manifestation of this impulse that has only existed for some 400 years. If your analysis starts and ends at “capitalism bad” you miss the vast majority of oppression that has existed or will exist.

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What’s your evidence for your the root of evil is that some people just have an “evil” gene theory?

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I never mentioned genetics, strange that you would bring it up. Sex isn’t even fully determined by genetics, something as complex and fragile as your personal values certainly can never be reduced to genetics.

Humans brains are stochastic and the values we eventually settle on depend both on our environment and on somewhat random walks through possible values. Some people will land on violent domination as a social strategy just through randomness. I believe an environment where everyone is cared for and has the ability to flourish will minimize the people who randomly end up on violent domination, but it is not possible through environmental changes to completely prevent this. Thus we cannot allow any positions of power, since those will attract and eventually be captured by people who have chosen domination as their preferred strategy.

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