Impossible when events like Tienanman Square are the outcome in some countries. It only takes one to upset a global unionization apple cart.
I think it’s actually spelled “天安门广场”
Source: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Tiananmen
Yes, I am fun at parties, and I will prove it as soon as I get invited to one.
In a sort of abstract sense, there are some parallels.
In a system like the US, corporations and those with a lot of money hold a lot of power, and unionization is a way for everyone else to take some power for themselves to make sure that their voices are heard.
In a system like China however, most of that power is instead concentrated with the government and upper echelons of party, so attempts at democratizing fill a similar role of giving regular people a voice.
There’s a lot of nitty gritty details, cultural differences, etc. and I don’t really want to gloss over those, but the root in either case is common people organizing and trying to make sure their voices are heard.
Rojava or 1930s Spain
Those unions would have elected union reps. They’d gain an immense amount of power, and anyone on the edge of society not in a union would lose their voice — stay at home parents, small business owners, etc.
Eventually the unions would gravitate to a party system, those parties would become bipolar, and world governments would become figureheads. Unions would begin to clash, eventually forming new political bodies along union lines. Union members would question why non-union members don’t have to pay dues, and a requirement would come about that when old enough to work, it would be mandatory for everyone to pick a union.
You can see where this is going.
The only reason unions work is that they pit the power of production against the power of military strength and control. Give the unions too much power, and their leadership becomes the thing they’ve fought to resist.
You can see where this is going.
Yes but only if all the world would work like Usa.
In reality, all the world works differently than all the world.
Well, you could argue that China already has the structure being described here. How does it work out there?
I was assuming a union system similar to what is currently used in the US. If it’s not democratic, you’re going to have other issues.
Of course, ranked choice could mitigate some of the issues, but you can’t get away from the power imbalance problem.
Interesting scale there (all workers unionized versus one country fucking over others), I don’t think they are exclusive.
It would be better, butnot perfect and with new issues.
I have started to think of the federal mining wage as “the union of man’s negotiated minimum rate”. All other unions and individuals negotiate from that.
If that wage is meant to be the same everywhere: economic chaos. A living wage for a worker in NYC, NY, USA is very different to the living wage in Da Nang, Viet Nam. You could work for eventual parity, but that comes with its own huge set of challenges. It’s interesting to think about.
A possible solution is to use percentages to keep it relative. Workers make 10% of what a CEO makes, a manager makes 15%, etc. Or a percentage of GDP or so other metric to make it comparable.
It’s still likely an impossible idea, but you could start nationally and then work out from there.
