By all criteria, this a concentration camp. Not “concentration camp” as rhetorical inflation, or emotionally manipulative shorthand, or edgy metaphor—but as in: literally.

As in: detention without trial, state control, inhumane living conditions, forced labor, dehumanization, brutal violence, isolation from accountability, psychological torture, and—by every available logical extension—murder.

That last one we can’t yet verify in the strict evidentiary sense, but the circumstances suggest it like smoke suggests fire, and they are already trying to hide their actions and deny what is occurring.

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From Wikipedia:

“A concentration camp is a prison or other facility used for the internment of political prisoners or politically targeted demographics, such as members of national or minority ethnic groups, on the grounds of state security, or for exploitation or punishment.”

I’d say it tracks.

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It is not new though, it started with Guantanamo concentration camp for Taliban fighters.

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It is not new though, it started with Guantanamo concentration camp for Taliban fighters.

It is not new though, it started with 10 concentrations camps during World War 2 for Japanese Americans.

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It is not new though, it started with Guantanamo concentration camp for Taliban fighters.

It is not new though, it started with 10 concentrations camps during World War 2 for Japanese Americans.

It is not new though, it started with concentration camps for the extermination and removal of the Native Americans

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Hey! You skipped the civil war concentration camps on both sides, how dare you.

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In Die Hard, when Hans is describing Takagi, he says “interned at Manzanar 1942-43”. 9 year old imsufferableninja thought he was talking about an internship at a prestigious company called Manzanar. 25 year old imsufferableninja finally figured it out. They did not teach about the US’s concentration camps at my schools, for some reason…

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Master Miyagi from Karate Kid also had it rough.

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Massive shoutout to my teacher who taught us this junior or senior year. Was absolutely shocked.

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Guantanamo Bay is/was its own fresh hell, but it was not a concentration camp.

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Why is it not?

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Because it was used for a select few (relatively speaking). It wasn’t a camp built to concentrate a sizeable portion of our population into one small area.

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It was an off the record black torture/interrogation site. They didn’t send every taliban they accounted there. It was selective.

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The stated purpose of CECOT is to put people in violently cramped, close confinement with each other until they die.

It is a deathcamp.

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Exactly it’s a death camp.

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They’re right that we should at minimum not allow them to define how we talk about this, and we should call it what it is.

But we should also have a plan to avoid getting put in a concentration camp when we do so. Stay safe, and be good everyone.

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America has been doing this for decades. Look at Guantanamo Bay. We used the excuse of terrorism then and now we’re using the excuse of boarder security. As long as people can be controlled by their greed of or fear then this will continue to happen.

Edit: autocorrect…

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Also look at FDRs concentration camps for Japanese Americans. This shit is a time honored tradition in this country.

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I don’t want to minimize the suffering of Japanese Americans in the camps in any way, but from the history I’ve read they seem to be a few steps up from whatever the hell is going on at CECOT.

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I’m not trying to compare them. We have no idea what’s going on at CEDOT. It could very well be worse, that’s true. My point is FDRs camps were, by definition, concentration camps. This country has a long history of throwing people into concentration camps.

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greed

fear

And especially disgust. They weaponize it so much.

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Isn’t the name of the camp “terrorism confinement” something?

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We were always the first Nazis that won.

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More like winners who later decided their defeated enemies were cool. 😅

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America was absolutely a part of the formulation of the nazis. Look up Henry Ford. His plagiarized propaganda was attributed as a source used in the formulation of the final solution. Fuck even Thomas Edison was trying to talk him down. Look at the america first party. Over 20 congressional representatives were in active communication and even received funding from Nazis. Some had received pre written speeches that they actually used.

If anyone “won” anything, it would be the Nazis, not Americans. Because here we are…

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