Anti Brexit: told you so.
Pro Brexit: this is not the Brexit I voted for.
They wanted a Brexit that would still offer them the benefits of being in the EU, without any of the responsibilities of it
Which is pretty much what we had anyway. Oh, but if course I dOn’T wAnT bRuSsElS tElLiNg Me HoW tO LiVe!
I’d prefer the complete opposite of only Brussels telling us how to live and the Tories fucking off forever.
We already basically had that. There was essentially no onerous responsibilities on individuals to be in the EU. Sure we had to give the EU money, but we also got money and I’m pretty sure that it was coming in more than it was going out.
On an individual citizens level, essentially there was no downside and huge amount of upside.
Have you tried going to France lately, it’s a nightmare, it used to be that you would just drive up to the little passport kiosk and some French guy would barely glance at you and wave you through. You could have been a terrorist or smuggling drugs, he didn’t care.
Pro Lexit: this is just about to get started
Why would any sane left leaning leaver believe the right would deliver a left leaning brexit?
The added benefit is crippling the Tories for at least a decade, plus all the scalps already taken:
Really? The CAP sucks up the largest slice of the budget and rewards rich land owners to pollute
Remainers were the most deluded, thinking they were already in the sunlit uplands, when in reality they were just giving up sovereignty for pet passports and mobile roaming whilst 25k lobbyists in Brussels shape policy and decisions at the top are made in secret
https://www.politico.eu/article/copa-cogeca-farmering-lobby-europe/
And that’s not even the Antici secret notes from the Council meetings.
Edit. lol downvote away, no karma censorship bollocks here
Facts > feels, most of you don’t even know how the EU works, and given an actual chance to do something revolutionary cowered like chicken littles because of a threat to Thatcher’s neoliberal single market?
Imagine voting for the status quo, lol.
I’m honestly more surprised by the fact that 61% of Brexiteers still think this will ultimately turn around, than I am by this headline
We’ve had almost 4 years to start righting the ship, and we’ve done barely jackshit so far. What makes them think things will suddenly change anytime soon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias
See also: climate change.
Climate change is an easy to solve problem all we have to do is die out. Fortunately governments around the world are working on that one.
The problem is if Labour bring the UK back into the EU the Conservatives are going to start going on about illegitimately denying the will of the people, the actual will of the people not withstanding.
It sets the precedent that you can just flip flop on these things.
The only way to do it would be they would have to be another referendum. And I’m concerned that UKIP idiots would come out of the woodwork once again and mess that up.
Nearly 1 in 10 think it’s gone well???
It’d odd until you consider that at least that many Brexiteers fell head over heels for that misleading NHS statistic printed on the side of a bus, and just ran with ot to the voting stations…
If it’s that easy to convince them to shoot themselves in the foot, it’s probably that easy to convince them it was a good thing.
I’ll bet my left leg that 9% consists of A: corrupt shitbags who shorted the £ or otherwise made profit from the disaster, and B: Daily Mail-style Tory-voting retards who have absolutely no critical thinking skills and who reckon they are just around the corner from being in danger of a higher tax bracket despite shooting themselves in the foot like turkeys voting for Christmas, every. Fucking. Time.
People who go on about tax brackets are the most annoying people in the world because they demonstrably don’t understand how tax works.
No Susan you won’t get put in a higher tax bracket if you get £100 extra a month. You’ll only pay extra tax on the £100, I don’t care what you read on Facebook. That isn’t how tax works.
I’m in my late fifties, and my best friend who regularly takes me hiking (he’s ex-Coldstream Guards) is a Brexiteer and I’m a Remainer.
We meet maybe once every couple of months, and it’s always the first thing he wants to talk about - he’s firmly in the “this is not the Brexit I voted for” camp.
I don’t want to bad mouth him because he’s my dearest of friends but give it a rest mate. I want talk about who’s playing at our local dive bar next week, I’m not bothered about Brexit any more.
He’s bound to read it here. What better place to write it.
I voted leave because the EU hasn’t passed an audit for about 25 - 30 years, fraud being regularly cited. Our local politicians of all persuasions are bent enough, why add more?
On a basic matter we were desperate to join the EU in the seventies because the UK was bankrupt. We ended up being the second highest contributor after Germany with loads of net takers and many applying to join.
Much cheaper, given the fraud, to just give money directly to the East European states (and of course Greece.).
He’s bound to read it here. What better place to write it.
My friend does not use platforms like this. I know him better than you do.
