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Nobody wants to work anymore!

(when the fuck did people actually want to work?)

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Some time ago people merged contributing to society and being productive with work.

Work is doing something for money, but there are things I would do for free if I didn’t need to earn money to survive.

Teaching, community gardens, organizing social events. These are all things I’d love to do but I have to work like 50 hours a week to survive and safe for the future.

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I especially enjoy the 1979 citation there > “Nobody wants to work anymore.” - disgusted businessman

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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Said by - Socrates

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The older generation has basically always resented the younger generation for:

  1. Their lives being easier,
  2. Their music and clothing being awful,
  3. Doing sex wrong.

It’s like a constant of recorded history. The Romans said these things in ~300BC.

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Also about the younger generation being too soft, which I believe ties with your first pint.

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As a millennial I don’t resent zoomers, I actually feel ashamed for not having done better by them

As for music and clothes… I mean… we had Gabbers…

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As a fellow (albeit very late) millennial, what is a gabber?

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I also never heard of Gabbers, my fellow millenianite. From a quick Google search it appears to be a style of EDM music.

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I hope the Gabbers are still out there? … That is, if they used that amphetamine sparingly.

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4 points

O tempora o mores

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Trans people have existed for as long as people have existed.

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Intersex yes. I thought trans was a relatively new (20th century, maybe 1930s) thing. What is the earliest recorded transition?

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Chevalier d’Éon spent the last years of her life recognised by the king as a woman from 1777.

The term transgender is 20th century, but transgender people have always existed

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In South Asia (where I come from), Hijras have been around for a thousand years now apparently.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)

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I specifically mean trans people, not intersex people, though they have existed too. There are plenty of ancient cultures with evidence of what we would call trans people today, with some even being revered. Sorry to not give sources, but I’m just not invested enough to go research specifics at the moment.

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I’m genuinely curious. Would you consider someone like Mulan trans? I’m from India and we have mythological stories of intersex and gods magically transforming to the opposite gender. None technically trans

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I know there was a Trans man that rode for the Pony Express. We just didn’t call it that and if they were ever found out there us a good chance they would die.

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are we stretching the definitions here a little bit? Would we call Mulan trans?

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Also two-spirit people in Indigenous cultures

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the earliest i’m aware of off the top of my head goes back to around 300BCE, but i haven’t exactly done any research to find the earliest example, and i’d expect there are earlier ones. just suffice to say we’ve been around a long time.

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You’re thinking of being g post-op. Not all trans people have surgery, and it’s not a requirement for being trans.

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To add to everyone else’s replies, there’s also the muxe gender in Zapotec culture (indigenous southern mexico), which is thought to have been around since before Spanish colonization

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Cancel culture. It’s been around for a very long time, though it used to be expressed in shunning, banishment, or communal acts of corporeal harm (e.g. tarring and feathering, lynching, etc.)

Edit: just realized the question was for something true, not just something that’s been around for longer than people think lol

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I must be old. I remember when “cancel culture” was called “voting with your wallet”, and rich corporations used it to justify their own success.

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I feel like that’s more of a corpo relations phrase, cancel culture is more personal. Like that voting with your wallet was supposed to influence the behavior of corps, not individuals.

I think a good older example of cancel culture were the American red scares, especially the McCarthy trials. Although an extreme example of it, they were ‘cancelling’ people who’s views they considered dangerous. People disliked by others would often be called a Communist and socially / economically harmed tremendously, regardless if they were actually a Communist. If you got to a McCarthy trial, you were doomed; that guy was cancelling with the power of the state, afaik knowledgeable to the fact many of the accusations were false

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It’s kind of funny when someone is commenting on two threads at the same time, and the subject is coincidentally tied.

I was discussing about Socrates’ trial. “Socrates was cancelled” describes it perfectly. Cancel culture in Athens 399 BCE.

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