A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.
This is the consequence of the hatred that transphobes, garden variety conservatives and TERFs alike, have stoked. And the narrative that the media has gleefully ran with.
Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays is genuinely scary in a way I think a lot of people don’t fully understand. And of course when femininity is being policed, women of colour tend to suffer too, even if they are cisgender.
When you’re so anti-trans you loop around and become anti-cis.
I think these people might just be anti-women.
Racism, Misogyny and transphobia have always come from a similar place and build off of each other. They share the same narratives and the same desire for ostracization and oppression. Bigots will always ally with other bigots, as this hatred is not rational and only someone with similarly irrational hate could support you. Dig enough in bigoted communities and you are certain to find all different kinds of hatred.
That’s why TERF communities are infested with homophobia, misogyny, racism, antisemitism and Islamophobia. Over time the concentration of white supremacy and nazism has grown exponentially in terf communities. Nazis share many of the same goals and many of the same conspiracies that terfs do. And prominent terfs like Kelly Jay Keen openly ally with Christian white nationalists around the world.
I’d argue that the TERF perspective is fundamentally anti-male rather than (or maybe in addition to) misogynistic.
The specific position TERFs hold that makes them TERFs is that you cannot become a woman if you weren’t born one and that women should be granted certain special protections and spaces of their own, kept free from men.
That’s why TERFs ALWAYS frame trans issues in the form of men dressing up as women to infiltrate women’s spaces and women’s services. They could give a shit about trans men, it’s all trans women because trans women are the ones using things that in their eyes should be the sole provenance of “real” women.
I feel we need to change that little children’s rhyme to be a bit more accurate
“Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can lead to pogroms” or something like that
I’ve always been partial to “sticks and stones may break my bones but words can really hurt me”.
When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.
Cops will move heaven and earth to not prosecute the criminals they like. Especially corrupt racist-ass NYPD.
Summarizing my other reply, but cops often literally don’t have jurisdiction outside of their presinct. This is normal.
They should still be obligated to record and pass on the details of the crime, and get the citizen in contact with the correct people directly. Recording and reporting crime and inter-police communication is kinda their whole fucken job.
“Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so.”
"Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.”’
JFC
To be perfectly fair, cops often literally don’t have jurisdiction outside of their “home” precinct. If they witness a crime outside of their jurisdiction they can make a citizen’s arrest, or if they’re in pursuit of someone who started in their jurisdiction they can chase, but they legally can’t do anything otherwise.
A police officer may arrest a person for a crime, pursuant to subdivision one, whether or not such crime was committed within the geographical area of such police officer’s employment, and he or she may make such arrest within the state, regardless of the situs of the commission of the crime.
Kinda sounds like yes they can. Besides, all this person tried to do was file a report. What you’re seeing here is that cops don’t feel like doing any part of the job that doesn’t involve LARPing a 90s action film.
Cops have authority anywhere in the state, which is why they can be brought in from surrounding areas for special events, riots and other incidents, and can arrest you off-duty if they witness something illegal.
Almost like pointless hate makes the world a bit shitter.
I don’t know, all that hate makes it really easy to point fingers at trans calling them a monster so you can hide wealth as the dragon lord of the land without anyone amassing to look for dragons when there are trans demons to demonize.
HEY! You leave dragons out of this! Most dragons aren’t even all that interested in amassing wealth or power, they’re just avid collectors of anything that grabs their interest. The “greedy dragon” stereotype was based on humans misunderstanding the intentions of a few coin-collecting dragons. They had no interest in wealth or power, to them the coins were like shiny rocks or pressed leaves; but the humans couldn’t understand that and thought they were being greedy, and the humans hated them for it.
Once upon a time if you wanted to see the grandest, most complete collection of coins, stamps, music, 19th century hats or really any other object, you could ask your local dragon. If they’re not collecting the thing you want to see, they probably knew a dragon that does. Nowadays, between greedy humans and anti-dragon bigotry (typically rooted in the “greedy dragon” stereotype), many dragons can no longer afford to keep large, fully complete collections, nor can many handle the social pressure to not appear greedy to humans. This is why so many dragons lash out, are addicts or in poor mental health. They’re having to suppress their own wants and needs just to please the humans who care nothing for them.
Don’t attach dragons to greedy billionaires. Dragons just want everything to be together; billionaires think everything should belong to them.
This is what transphobia has to offer. Transphobia and TERFS are inherently misogynistic because they start to attack every single woman that doesn’t fit into the worldview of a few people.
Yeah, transohibia, anti gay, racism, anti immigrant, anti religion - intolerance is ugly, evil and the worst of humanity
Agree, agree, agree, agree, WHAT? Bro religion is the support beam holding up most of these bigotries in a big way.
Hmm Yeah ok I probably should have used more words there :o) I’m an atheist. I don’t like what religion does to people, in general. What I meant to say - but clearly didn’t express well - is that hating people for their religion is bullshit (also, their lack of religion). The general point was that hating people for their group membership is just evil.
Yeah, there are reasons to be anti-religion and even potentially anti-immigrant, those issues have actual logically and morally consistent reasons. Whereas racism and the others are entirely emotional and based on nothing. Religion is belief literally founded on nothing.
So we’re segmenting the trans community by binary gender now? What the hell
Is it still a hate crime if they were wrong about the person’s identity? Imo it should be.
If you committed a crime because of the perception of an individual falling under a protected class, it should qualify as a hate crime. I believe this is considered a bias incident and it is treated as a hate crime in NYC.
Of course it qualifies as a hate crime. Hate crime legislation is entirely about what you think inside your head as you commit some other crime - hence the word “hate”.
That is good to hear. Hopefully this cunt will be in prison for a huge chunk of their life.
No, no. A cunt has depth and warmth and I don’t think the attacker in this case has either.
So in a conversation about someone commiting a hate crime based on someones genetalia you decide to use a term specifically used to debase people by calling them female genetalia and it seems people even upvote you for it. Great. And you even think you are being supportive.
IIRC NY is a transfer of intent state, that is to say if you intended to kill X person but fucked up and killed Y person instead, you’re still guilty of 1st degree murder, because you still intended to do a murder
That’s a cool tidbit to know. What did it have to do with this story? Where did the transfer take place?
Man intended to hate crime a trans woman but was wrong about the woman being trans
