To be fair, we basically just elected a Biden-style neoliberal who is slightly to the right of Trudeau. As affordability continues to gradually decline, our Trump (Poilievre) or a similar guy will be even more empowered. We’re basically a few years behind the USA right now and your right are actively trying to speed it up.
The liberal party should pass the electoral reform they promised so more political parties can compete on who can beat conservatives the best.
Stopping the conservatives is the priority… right?
The liberal party honors their promises… right?
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
That’s why the 2-party system is so flawed. I used to be so gullible to think that if everyone keeps voting for the left party then the parties overall would sway more left in their future policies, but that is impossible in the capitalistic hellhole we live in.
I’m still a bit baffled it doesn’t work.
Like, the Left not doing enough SHOULD lead the right to decide “Dang, we need a message that appeals. Let’s blame the rich, and champion power over corporations!” But…instead they blame nonsensical things, promise nothing, and appeal to hatred, and get more than one vote.
That should just…never happen. That faction should be gonezo, making plenty of room for an independent party.
It’s because of this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismogenesis
It’s like being on a see saw, trying to get higher, with both sides doing extreme polar opposite actions eventually. Momentum is part of it. The idea is complex and the wiki doesn’t do it justice, but it’s fine.
The effect causes two well-meaning individuals having a conversation to ramp up different styles, resulting in a disagreement that does not stem from actual difference of opinion.
The right just blaims the problems created by the rich on minorities like migrants, trans and homosexuals. That makes them look like they actually care about the people being hurt by the system, however also allows them to gain support from the rich. The rich do onw a lot of the media, which has massive influence on the vote.
The left party also knows this, so they usually do some minor things, which do not change the system too much in the hopes on not being hurt by the rich.
Oh and both parties are deeply corrupt.
I’m on record as saying even if the US had elected Harris, we’d be right back on the precipice four years after. Maybe Trump, maybe someone else, but it would still be awful.
As badly as the world needs Luigi right now, he’s not the long term solution.
I’m not gonna congratulate Canada on not completely shitting the bed. The Canadians were going to vote in a Trump-like conservative until Trump started banging on about Canada being the 51st state. If Trump kept his mouth shut, it would have been curtains for the Liberal party.
Canadians did not vote for the Liberals based on their record or policies, they voted to tell Trump to fuck off. The moment Trump is no longer a threat, the unity dies and everything swings back to the Conservatives, which isn’t a good thing.
Yeah, as someone from the shit hole to the south, I was very relieved Canada didn’t go in the populist, right wing, direction it was looking like. I am hoping the failure of the trump administration instigates a push back to the general trend right that has been going on in the west. My bigger, less likely hope, is that we can reflect on what happened and actually address the popularity of fascism.
Yeah it was a close election. We absolutely did not reject Trump with any consensus. There’s not as much to celebrate people think.
What people don’t know is the Conservatives here have had a revolving door of leaders in search of a Trump-like candidate. The past several election cycles have been this way. The party has sold their soul to MAGA style politics a long time ago.
They just had the best showing ever in this election even though it was a loss. And this is with the best Trump wannabe candidate they’ve managed to field thus far. A belligerent authoritarian-like tyrant with zero shame. They are not going to stop this any more than the Republicans would to turn back from Trump. They may even keep the current guy even though he lost his own seat.
Canada will inevitably elect a conservative government. It’s a defacto two party system. It will all go to hell. Especially if MAGA is still ruling America at the same time.
they voted to tell Trump to fuck off.
God, if only our voters did the same.
But no, let’s talk about principles and genocide Joe, I’m sure that will help Gaza, that will really show them all!!!
Yeah, those guys are still pretty butthurt when you call them out. they just can’t get over their righteous stupidity backfiring.
With any luck the Conservatives will split back into two parties. It’s unlikely, but the splitting of the Conservatives would be a welcome surprise.
Some people joke about Carney’s lack of a “celebrity charisma”, or being “too boring”.
Tells you all you need to know about why the US is going through its current “historic chapter”.
Better to have an economist learn how to be a politician, than a politician learn to be an economist. Too many countries allow themselves and their parliaments devolve into complete fish markets where the person talking the loudest, or getting the cheapest “gotcha” moment, are deemed to be “awesome”.
Give me boring, please. “interesting times” are only good to learn about in history books, not as they happen.
The really irritating thing to me is seeing the Trumpanzees mock Canada, talking like this is the end of Canada as a country.
No self-awareness, no realization that Trump’s policies are the direct cause of this. They can’t conceive of any way to advance their interests beyond people just abasing themselves before Trump.
True. Apes would never let a trump-analogous-ape rule over them. That kind of ape would get the shit beat out of him and he’d cower in a corner thumb in mouth.
Canada has had 0.7% per capita GDP growth since 2015. Which puts us 2nd last only to Luxembourg in all 38 countries of the OECD.
We elected a person who said oil needs to stay in the ground in their book, who wants to grow population at more than 450k a year (1% cap, plus births) to prop up GDP despite the current high unemployment and the severe housing shortage, and who wants to join Germany and the UK in spinning up solar and wind which clearly did not go well for either of them.
https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/let-ed-run-it
Through that lens I could see how they could be fearful of Canada’s demise, especially if we have another 10 years like the last. Gross government debt also somehow doubled since 2015 as well to achieve this lethargic growth, before subtracting pensions to create the net debt figure the government generally uses.
Then theres yesterdays Alberta separation fear with bill 54, and the fact Alberta contributes significantly more to Ottawa than any other province. As tariffs have a chance to wipe out manufacturing and you’ll be asking Alberta to contribute even more to fund unemployed auto workers and the like, after some provinces block Alberta’s access to new trade routes, I could see some clear catalyst for separation. Which would put Canada in a deeply negative current account balance and would be the end of Canada as we know it now.
Percap is probably not the best metric here, firstly, you’ve had massive immigration, your growth rate is around 3x that of the US.
Secondly, that windoe is also centered around covid.
Well we have a negative productivity growth as well at the moment. Hence the BoC ringing the alarm bells. That makes it harder to pay our growing debt load even with spreading it out to more people.
wants to join Germany and the UK in spinning up solar and wind which clearly did not go well for either of them
German here, works pretty well actually.
You’re also burning lignite coal now, which you take from Africa who is now having blackouts. But it went pretty poorly overall phasing out nuclear for renewables.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany
Key to Germany’s energy policies and politics is the Energiewende, meaning “energy turnaround” or “energy transformation”. The policy includes nuclear phaseout (completed in 2023) and progressive replacement of fossil fuels by renewables. However, contrary to plan, the nuclear electricity production lost in Germany’s phase-out was primarily replaced with coal electricity production and electricity importing. One study found that the nuclear phase-out caused $12 billion in social costs per year, primarily due to increases in mortality due to exposure to pollution from fossil fuels.
Sure, sure, but, if politics were sane, Carney would have been the conservative nominee and there would have been no fear of fascism.