Elon Musk has until the end of Wednesday to respond to demands from Brussels to remove graphic images and disinformation linked to the violence in Israel from his social network X — or face the full force of Europe’s new social media rules.

Thierry Breton, the European Union commissioner who oversees the bloc’s Digital Services Act (DSA) rules, wrote to the owner of X, formerly Twitter, to warn Musk of his obligations under the bloc’s content rules.

If Musk fails to comply, the EU’s rules state X could face fines of up to 6 percent of its revenue for potential wrongdoing. Under the regulations, social media companies are obliged to remove all forms of hate speech, incitement to violence and other gruesome images or propaganda that promote terrorist organizations.

Since Hamas launched its violent attacks on Israel on October 7, X has been flooded with images, videos and hashtags depicting — in graphic detail — how hundreds of Israelis have been murdered or kidnapped. Under X’s own policies, such material should also be removed immediately.

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This is some “quality” reporting. Nowhere does the EU says to remove “graphic violent images”, it’s only asking for transparency in what gets removed and the removal of disinformation and calls to violence.

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Thanks for clearing that up.

Modern “journalists” are almost always scum.

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Getting rid of misinformation is great.

Getting rid of accurately reported, gruesome images because of a government mandate flies in the face of the core principles of free speech. And it would cause real damage to the world.

Remember that it was only when the world actually saw images of the Nazi concentration camps that the world actually believed it. They’d heard about it for years, but it was largely ignored.

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Getting rid of misinformation is great.

That is the goal. The OP article and especially the headline here is misleading.

This is what is in the original letter regarding violent images: „repurposed old images of unrelated armed conflicts or military footage that actually originated from video games“.

The issue is not violent images per se. The issue is misinformation through violent images that are unrelated to the current events.

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and other gruesome images or propaganda that promote terrorist organizations.

Seems to me like this is a sly way to remove any videos where Hamas is successful.

Which is weird, because seeing those videos usually gives more support for Israel.

This whole law is fucked. Leave freedom of speech alone.

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Freedom of speech is mostly an American concept. In most European states we „only“ have freedom of expression and opinion (a human right). Deliberately spreading propaganda, agitation and fake news is not covered by freedom of expression and opinion. On the contrary, it can be a criminal offense.

This is not the first time Musk thinks US laws apply to the whole world or that he is above the law of the countries his businesses operate in. A part of me hopes that he gets fined and then ignores the fine. He might just be stupid enough.

See? I called him stupid. That is an expression of my opinion. Using images of violence from 2010 and claiming that they are from 2023 is not an opinion.

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I respect that but the images presented to the public were selected to denounce and illustrate horrendous acts commited.

Here, I’d risk there is a very high risk/probability whatever may be leaked/posted is for pure shock value, with no intention to inform or contextualize.

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Intent doesn’t matter. People should be allowed to document and post crimes committed against humanity

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The pictures are old and don’t relate to what’s happening currently.

Also, what do you think the differences between pre-meditated and manslaughter are? Intent absolutely matters.

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Intent does matter. It is so inportant it is even relevant in courts of law.

You want the images of the barbarism raging in Israel as we speak to be known to the world and that is a good thing. People need to see the acts being commited there.

Yet twitter is not, in any way, the platform for it, as those same images are very easily twisted out of context and thrown out in a fashion that will only serve to further entrench extreme positions and used for sheer shock value.

These are human lives being laid to waste, not a social media circus for browny points.

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I’m not sure, but I believe this is only for social media sites. You can still document it, but social media isn’t the place. I assume you’d be able to link to that, but not to the images directly, but I’m just guessing.

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Yeah, I see denouncing and illustrating terrorist attacks as a good thing.

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Yes, which requires an unbiase position, supplying all possible information.

Nowadays, and even more when considering twitter, that is hardly the case.

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You should read before you post.

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You’re speaking against the propaganda fueled groupthink, that’s a bannable offense.

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Or what lol. Rich people are above the law.

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I’m glad to see for once the fines are proportional to revenue, and not a fixed amount. 6% hurts.

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Will it hurt though? How are they going to collect the 6%? Do US based banks cooperate with the EU on this kind of thing? What happens if Musk just tells them to go fuck themselves?

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I assume EU-based ISPs will be forced to ban access to the website for noncompliance, otherwise it would have literally no teeth whatsoever

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Probably a lot of Xi tter customers headquatered in EU. They can say to their own banks to not send money.

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how can settle for that?

when normal people spend years in single cell rooms for small offenses Lmao 🇺🇸🦅😎

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This is in the EU, so your emojis don’t make sense. But you are right, rich people get off way too easy the world over.

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Xitter is a corporation that doesn’t live in the EU

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Sorry, completely off topic and not the place, but …

your comment is perfectly complemented by your username above it.

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You’re thinking of profit. Revenue is all money coming in before expenses. Revenue is still a big number even if they’re losing money.

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Also it’s 6% of turnover, not revenue. And world-wide, not just the EU.

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This is not toothless…well it is a bit in that they constantly warn instead of imposing the fines but 6% of revenue has fuck all to do with net profit(which is always positive or else it would be a loss).

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I mean, twitter is at the risk of bankruptcy so…

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EU can only penalize him on revenue (not profit) in the EU. So likely small fries compared to the billions of dollars of devaluation and advertiser revenue he’s already squandered on his crusade.

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He’s gonna fuck this up, too.

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