“American Nazi Party Leader Condemns Foreign Government for Classifying Nazis as Nazis”
They are certainly not nazis. The Nazis were organized and not lazy. The Nazis actually believed their own bullshit. The Nazis had intelligence and cunning. Trump has none of these things. He is the dumbest laziest dictator the world has ever seen.
Don’t believe nazi propaganda about those things. They were largely inefficient and disorganized, they just predated others to fuel their goals. It’s one of the economic reasons for waging war on everyone: once you use up your local stolen wealth, you gotta raid other people’s. Nazi organizational structures were famously broken, with different redundant levels of political control pitted against each other, in line with social darwinist ideas.
And by far not all Nazis were true believers. Tons were “merely” playing along, because they thought they’d get something out of it. They often did, with the wealth of previously Jewish owned (and other) companies being handed to people close to the leadership.
These are parallels, not contrasts.
You ever read a comic book with characters with big blocky fists and feet? You ever notice how the comic book villains in those stories were completely incompetent and SUPER weird? Yeah that’s because Jack Kirby, a Jewish man from NYC was a forward scout during WWII and saw the nazis for who they were first hand. He spent a career trying to communicate to the world the horrors of what he saw: these weird dumbasses were somehow able to kill 6M of his brothers and sisters simply by doing it.
He also portrayed his Jewish-coded characters such as The Thing as being deeply emotionally connected to the people around them and invested in social causes because
- That was his own personal understanding of his Jewish faith
- Something very disturbing happened after WWII. A particular set of violent weirdos like the ones he’d seen in France and Germany came to define what Judaism was to the world at large (I’m talking about Zionists right now). He hoped to reach young boys reading his comics and instill in them that this was not the way, and that the way was for them to find allies and coalitions with similar ideals to them without establishing a hierarchy of racial classes
None of the way silver and bronze age comics depict violent weirdos is an accident. Comic Books as an art form has its roots in a mix of street art and war-time propaganda. The weird part (or perhaps the beautiful part) is that across the globe this is true. Spanish Comics have their own look and feel influenced by that Iberian street art has its own look and feel. Same with Japanese comics, Latin American comics, comic books from people outside of NYC. I could go on. But there’s this… Incredible force of… Human nature where when we gather together we tell stories and spread messages to each other. Comic Books are a low art, and they’re often seen as being for kids, but their creators don’t see being low art as being lesser art. A lot of them have high art training and have seen what the high art world values and have rejected that.
And like… There are some comic books out there that have TRULY incredible things to say about the world, history, and humanity. My very favorite, One Piece, is super accessible, too, written and conceived to communicate to 10 year olds that resistance to fascism is rooted in the following: environmental protections, comedy, and giving nazis a good old fashioned punching. Maus is a biographical examination of the experience of a holocaust survival. Monster is about the traumas of the cold-war era for people “protected” by the mass control mechanisms established by the Soviet Union and United States. Footnotes in Gaza is an expose of the long running genocide in Gaza that is currently intensifying into total elimination. V for Vendetta explores what it means to resist fascism. Saga is… Jesus what do I even say about Saga. Saga is… An exploration of… Everything. It takes a deep close up look at what it feels like to try to survive in a total system of torture while maintaining a normal relationship (hint hint: it’s messy). Too often we think of war as being a top level thing between groups when those groups are made up of individuals experiencing daily personal tragedies. Saga addresses that. Which means there’s a mass scale war and interpersonal drama and neither draws focus from the other, but instead places both into stark relief about what’s going on.
New paragraph because I’m not done saying there’s comics out there that y’all should check out. Obviously there’s Watchmen, the examination of American fascism and its downsides. Actually I guess that’s the last one. But like… I hope this makes an impression on someone. Comic Book artists aren’t just trying to make a buck drawing doodles. A lot of them could make more money selling their work to high art assholes, but they choose to share their work with you and inspire you into being a better more complete person. And the accessibility and relationship between Comic Books and Street art is also an invitation. If you have a message to promote to the world, there’s a place for you in the arts, even if your art isn’t refined enough for the high art assholes. Still you can make something that connects with someone.
If you really pay attention, too, to the street art in your community, you can start to notice that street artists are having an asynchronous conversation with eachother. One will tag something and include a message with a tag, and then another street artist will tag something nearby with a message that’s related or in response. And when you see street art covering up other street art? That’s a dire message. The second artist is telling the first “I don’t just disagree with you. I think you should shut the fuck up and stay out of the streets”
And comic books are always having this conversation back with the streets, too. That’s part of what’s so incredible about the Spider-Verse films. They’re the first super hero films that engage with that the intersection of activism, art, and fantasy is where superheros come from. Every Spider-Man in those films is an artist of some variety and Spider-Punk (Hobie) is an EXPLICIT demonstration of exactly how far this can go. His activism and art aren’t an undercurrent or a side hustle for his spider-man. They’re an explicit aspect of his “heroism” (he’s not a hero because calling yourself a hero makes you a self mythologizing autocrat (by the way Luffy in One Piece says the exact same thing))
Note to the world, if Trump or his cronies condemn you for something, you’re doing the right thing.
My first thought when I saw the headline!
BTW, the AfD immediately complained to JD Vance and asked him to do something. That’s going to backfire hard.
Can we just fucking pass the “I’m rubber you’re glue” law already which would make any stupid fucker instantly shot out of a cannon directly into whichever capitol building near them if they ever tried to enact any overtly obvious bigoted law?
I would say that we should deport them, but I would rather we not run the risk.
I don’t know if they understand that their close association with Trump & Musk made the classification extremely easy, politically.
They are historically unpopular and they are dragging all their allies down with them.
I’m desperately hoping for these things:
- the AfD gets disbanded as soon as possible. If Germany keeps dragging its feet it just gives them more ammunition. The legality is clear on this. And I know, there will be protest from their constituency, and ranting and raving and pulling of hairs, but it just needs to be done.
- the - some - other parties figure out how to use social media properly. Die Linke seems to have it down rn. I’m not sure if this requires bringing “cool” people to the front while “uncool” people do the actual work / hold the actual power in the back, but if it does, just make it so! Because it certainly would be better than uncool people like Merz being the populist face of the party while at the same time making policy that seems to aim more at saving face than actual policy.
First France, now Germany. Seems Europe (at least some of us) has decided it won’t sit idly and let far-right extremists burn us to the ground.
Although these are all provisional fixes. The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media. Democracy can’t survive if the voting base is too ignorant to choose its leaders.
This is not a fix at all in Germany. There are no immediate repercussions of the Verfassungsschutz calling the AfD extremist. There might be more wind in the sails of the politicians that want a motion to ban them, but I’m definitely not holding my breath for it during a Merz administration.
I agree, it’s not a fix. However it’s also not just “calling them extremist”. It’s an official classification not just something haphazardly mentioned in a speech.
The move, announced Friday by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), means that the AfD is no longer merely under suspicion. The agency says it now has definitive evidence that the party works against Germany’s democratic system.
A 1,000-page internal report, according to German public broadcaster ARD, underpins the decision, citing violations of core constitutional principles such as human dignity and the rule of law.
The new classification doesn’t ban the party, but it allows German authorities to intensify surveillance, including the use of undercover informants and monitoring communications, under judicial oversight.
Germany should just ban Xitter. That’s where most of this nazi infection is coming from.
Democracy can’t survive if the voting base is too
ignorantmisinformed to choose its leaders.
People not knowing enough IS bad for democracy, but the fact that they “know” so many objectively false and harmful things is MUCH worse.
Make political advertisement / political messaging illegal on entertainment platforms. There’s precedent for highly regulated TV advertisements, why is there such a broad exception for unregulated manipulative online advertising? Why is cigarette, religious, drug advertising forbidden but political lies and agendas allowed, endorsed even? Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.
This simple legislation would instantly solve a lot of current issues with what’s wrong and protect free, democratic nations.
You’re kidding right? Far right extremist thought bubbles websites predate social media
But you used to have to go find them. Now they’re being inserted right into your feed.
Hypocrites the lot of them.
He has said many times there should be term limits on MPs and low and behold he is parachuting into Alberta just like a good little hypocrite does.
Imagine someone conservative running against him as an independent and winning.
That would be priceless. Are there any anti fascists conservatives living in the Battle River area?
The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.
Agreed. But it seems that the EU is also doing something about that. Just like with AfD, they’ve been dragging their feet for way too long but now something* gave them a jolt.
We currently have an interesting success story of Die Linke (proper left-wing party) who managed to garner votes by embracing social media and *cough* populism in, what seems to be, a Good Way.
and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.
Nope. I mean it’s not wrong to do that, but it would be mistaken to see that as anything but a flanking measure: You can’t fight affect with cognition. We need real-world policy which alleviates people’s anxieties.
Yeah you should ban their media, books, speech & lock them up. That’ll teach them about fascism alright.
On a more serious note, all this decision by Germany does is make groups like AfD stronger.
“fight disinformation” =/= " ban their media, books, speech & lock them up"
You really gave that strawman a good beating though.
You can’t fight fascism on the marketplace of ideas. The moment you sit at the table to talk, they spring up and punch you in the face.
Limiting circulation of fake news, holding those who spread it accountable, and forcing social networks to moderate their platform if they want to operate in the EU, should be the priority.
You kinda have a point. If we fight fascism using fascist methods, we only empower it because suddenly they feel oppressed. But we do need to fight misinformation. But our polititians are so incredibly tech illiterate.
Surprised fascist claims anti fascists are wrong and should stop fighting fascism. More news at 11.
Yeah no wonder. The administration he’s part of is behaving unconstitutionally, so it’s only logical he would condemn the Office for the Protection of the Constitution in other countries for doing its job. Can’t have that if you want to erode the democratic basic order.
