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What stops the students from renouncing the protests (under duress) and then just getting back into them once they have degrees?

Although, I’d like to think that any student who defies NYU’s demands will fare much better in the long run than a university that kowtows to facists

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They can just revoke their degrees… Sounds insane, but it happened already to other protesters in the US.

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Wow, I had not heard about this but it certainly delegitimizes other degrees that weren’t revoked.

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I’d just put that shit on my resume and state that it’s revoked and why. Whatever kind of employer would look down on that is not someone they will want to work for anyway.

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What stops the students from renouncing the protests (under duress) and then just getting back into them once they have degrees?

Probably the fact that if the NYU staffers pushing this are any smart, they’ll withhold the degrees for a few weeks (maybe even months) after the exam or until the protests die down anyway. Sure, they’re bound to do something incredibly stupid right after, but they’ve got what they’ve got.

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What about renouncing them officially but then attending protests a few blocks down while wearing masks?

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Masks don’t really provide anonimity (you’d need to accompany with anti-IR glasses to protect yourself from iris scans, and probably prostethics for your face as well as your legs to avoid gait recognition from camera footage), and they do nothing if you are grabbed by an ICEtard.

But yeah in the overall, I don’t really see a problem with renouncing them “officially” (just strike an X on the signature, you can later claim that that was not your signature and was forced under duress) and participating on the protests anyway. It’s not like lawyers are expected to not lie and trick their way out of things under capitalism anyway, so perhaps the students (and the faculty) should consider this as an extra period test.

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Principles. You’d have to be an asshole to publicly endorse genocide

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Very dark times in US

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I made a new pro-Palestine Lemmy instance !altmedia@altmedia.house come by for more links. I post 10-20 every day.

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Why dont these exist on the darknet, to protect all of us?

How does Lemmy federate over Onion Services?

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Need to start one on onion for doxing ICE agents.

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But does Lemmy support federation over onions? And do clients support it?

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Mask off season for the debt profiteers at the indoctrination institutes.

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Explain yourself.

I should add that I’ve read the article, and the line you’re pushing is utter bullshit.

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Huh, funny. Becuase 2 million Palestinians live in the Gaza strip, 50,000 already dead by the Isreali offensive and Isreal’s government wants to completely wipe them all out or, at minimum, ethnically cleanse the area. So what does that make the Isreali government then?

Hamas are violent terrorists whose goals are evil. They should not be tolerated. But even by Isreal’s estimates, btw, Hamas has around 16-18,000 soldiers now, and had between 20-30,000 before the offensive started in 2023. So, AT MINIMUM 36,000 civilians or those unassociated with Hamas have been killed. They’re not killing Hamas. They’re killing everything in their way. That’s murder, not defense. That’s genocide, not war.

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Do you accept a position that states Hamas commits evil and Israel commits evil? Both must stop atrocities?

I have yet to see any pro-Hamas supporters, but maybe I don’t get around enough. In your view, is it possible to be pro-Palestine and anti-Hamas?

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You’re the type of person that would call Anne Frank a terrorist if she’d lived long enough to resist the Nazis.

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You can be against that and against Israel’s genocide of Palestinians.

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How dare those people resist decades of violent occupation, displacement, apartheid, and genocide.

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Nazism is when you oppose genocide, apparently.

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I know right? It’s ridiculous! Apparently, you’re only a Nazi if you think Jewish people shouldn’t be killed by the millions.

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What jewish people? Are you talking about the zionists? The can just go back to their actual homes in nyc, europe, russia, asia, africa, etc. Nobody is forcing them to invade palestine, murder everybody, and steal the land.

It’s anti-semitic to conflate judaism with zionism. No surprise that’s your MO.

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People are being called Nazis for opposing the genocide of Palestinians. I hope you see equally how ridiculous that is.

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take a break, Ethan.

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Am I to understand that, from your perspective, every single Palestinian is actually a Hamas operative or sympathizer?

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Every person supporting Palestinians, too, apparently

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When you only support civilians in Palestine and not civilians in both countries, yeah, that dog whistle is pretty obvious.

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What countries are you talking about? There are Palestinians and there are people who are invading Palestine. It’s not some kind of “both sides” situation, dum dum.

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It’s pretty wild to hear a conservative calling anyone other than themselves a nazi, tbh. Thanks for the chuckle.

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Yeah I had a right-wing friend who called me a nazi on facebook. Later he started texting me saying he was sorry and didn’t mean it. That was one of the last straws. Dude was always a prick but he became absolute fash as an adult. Unfriended.

But ofc I wouldn’t genocide dude or put him in a concentration camp. That’s literally what his gross team is doing.

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Hey, it’s the Nazi apologist who constantly simps for Elon Musk!

Here’s your boy:

You’re so fragile that you had to ban the word “fascist” when you were still running your pissant little conservative community LMAO!

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Not once have I said anything good about Musk. Doge, sure, but Musk is still an asshole.

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You do realize your comments are public, right?

This is like having a battle of wits with a bowl of oatmeal.

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