66 points

Why not just use mastodon? Why is this better in any way? Twitter was already going to shit before Elon accelerated it.

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At least in my own bubble, many did switch to Mastodon. Those that didn’t are looking at other options, because the whole federation idea and things like home instances didn’t appeal to them or were simply too complicated (they want a service that at least hides its decentralized nature).

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21 points

I don’t get why people dislike federation

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18 points

Because it doesn’t come with instructions and there’s a lot of “buts”. For example, it took me a while to understand that, for example, I can’t log in “Mastodon.world” with my “Mastodon.social” account, I had to go to “Mastodon.social” to log in and THEN I can access to the content in “Mastodon.social”. Also, there’s the problem of instances blocking other instances. I would be pretty salty if I couldn’t access an account I followed, because the admins of the instance in which the account is hosted, decided to block the instance in which my account is in. That’s why the mayority of users go to the biggest instance (Lemmy.world and Mastodon.social for example), because instances blocking the biggest instance is unlikely to happen (you would block a lot of potencial users and therefore, diminished attractiveness of your instance). But everyone doing that defeats the whole point of federalization. Also, there’s the problem of defederalizing of instances. Also, the problem of safety, privacy and security. For example, a massive security fault was recently discovered in Mastodon and a server was raised by the police and all of it’s data captured by the police. In simple words, the fediverse is not the panacea it was sold like, the kinks are not ironed out.

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9 points

There are a ton of reasons not to like it and they’re evident on Lemmy pretty notably, let alone other platforms. The entire idea of being able to defederate and federate at will is a big feature of these platforms but they’re also the part that people like the least. If the server you’re on defederates from another server you like, you have no choice but to start all the way from the beginning if you need to choose another instance to join. At the same time, each instance gets its own version of every single community. If you join an instance that federates with lots of other instances, you’re very likely to see the exact same posts multiple times since each community is completely unique and separate (again, a feature for some, a boon for others).

Federation is great for a few reasons and really horrible for others. It’s not the single answer that works for everyone.

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4 points

Yeah, if you don’t like it just create and account on a generic big one that let’s you access most content and just go with it. Act as if centralized. People like to create problems for no reason. If other people care about choice and the tech behind it and the new possibilities allowed, let them be happy for it.

It’s literally like email. Most people just have a gmail one and that’s most common. Others care about specific services, prices, choice, privacy features, etc, and the trch allows people to make that choice without compromising the primary purpose which is connecting people.

Everyone should have a federated account just like everyone has a email account for most things that require it. More and more places are starting to have proper integration for example commenting on blogs instead of the other stupid common alternative (discourse or wtv is the name I don’t remember).

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2 points

What’s confusing about it?

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62 points

the fuck is bluesky?

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old twitter founder jack created another social platform just like how twitter was except it has a protocol very similar to activitypub (but not it so not compatible)

EDIT: https://atproto.com/guides/overview

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6 points

If I am not wrong decentrlization is a very old promise for that platform and not actually implemented in any way…

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8 points

Some sort of centralized alternative to Mastadon. Kinda silly tbh.

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It’s for libs who want things to be marginally better temporarily rather than significantly better forever.

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8 points

what do you mean by this

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9 points

The assumption is Jack will make bluesky just as bad as Twitter was before elon. But then jack and liberals didn’t see anything wrong with that twitter. So yeah, marginally better.

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0 points

It’s got a lot of the same problems that twitter had before the Elon takeover. If it just ended there it would at least be a quick replacement but they had to throw in a FOMO invite system and to make matters even worse the CEO of bluesky has been sucking Elon’s toes on all his shitty decisions leading anyone with any level of analysis to see that it’s not going to be long before bluesky ends up just as bad as twitter is today.

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36 points

So we’ve all decided to give Jack Dorsey another chance to do the same thing he did last time?

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5 points

Y’know, we — as a group — are kind of stupid.

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5 points

No, not stupid. Insane. The definition of insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again and expecting shit to change. That is crazy.

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2 points

Compromise: “Insanely stupid”.

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1 point

What did he do last time? Never used Twitter so I have no clue what people hated about it

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2 points

Well, refused to ban Trump for years no matter how many sitewide rules he broke, for starters.

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35 points

Let’s just put our social media in the hands of the exact same guy who fucked everyone over last time. Because that makes perfect sense.

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10 points

I always find it a weird take when people treat Twitter before Musk like it was some sort of wonderful place that people enjoyed.

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35 points

Like the joke of old:

Internet Explorer: the best browser for downloading other browsers

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