69 points

Don’t take this the wrong way, but fuck your business model. The internet was supposed to be open and be ours, and you stole it for profit.

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To be honest: you can still make your own website, and in many ways big companies are actually making it easier through open-source projects and stuff like Let’s Encrypt. The web industry is remarkably open compared to what big companies do in other industries. A lot of the standards meetings and stuff you can just go to and give your opinion. Or ignore the standards and fork it yourself. This alarmism I fear will make people not take the actually alarming things like encryption bans or ID requirements seriously.

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Only for some things, though. If you host your own e-mail these days, chances are, you’re going to have a very difficult time sending them anywhere without risking them being deleted, or automatically thrown into spam folders.

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11 points

True, but sadly that’s because of what became a genuine user safety concern

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19 points

also independent of that, fuck cloudflare

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2 points

And fuck the region-blocking that often comes with cloudflare.

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7 points

Lol. Yup 100%

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The first spam email was sent in 1978. It’s been downhill since.

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52 points

Letting Google break the law for years with illegal anti-competitive practices is now hurting everyone else’s ability to earn money.

I wonder if we have the combined will to do anything about it, or if we will wait and hope the invisible hand of the market will fix it…

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if we will wait and hope the invisible hand of the market will fix it…

Have we lost faith in our handsome businessman? /s

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32 points

nobody is going to want to create new content when they get paid nothing or almost nothing for doing so.

that’s a lie

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23 points

so basically back to internet 1.0, sounds good actually.

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8 points

Old youtube was a pretty cool place and nobody got paid

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People create content knowing others are going to get filthy rich off it and they’ll get nothing in return. Except total loss of privacy.

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3 points

Agreed.

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Replace “nobody” with “nobody who contributes to society; nobody I gave a shit about in the first place” and you’re on track.

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23 points

just because it’s free doesn’t mean it’s worthless, and charging for content doesn’t make it valuable

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224 points

The Web was much better and more useful back before it had a business model. Good riddance.

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I have a surprisingly forgiving opinion on AI. There are many cases that I think it’s purpose is stupid or defeats the point but it has the potential to cause such a large break to employability and capitalism in general that it has it’s upsides.

People are right to take issue with the fact that it is causing people to lose their jobs or be unemployable by no fault of their own, but underlying that issue is the fact that society shouldn’t function on the employment being necessary (which I am aware is an opinion).

Even in its absurd energy and water usage, this is largely an issue with how we currently get our energy and water. Having our technocrats suddenly more invested in new and better forms of energy, even just for powering AI has the potential to be a path to better clean energy options.

AI is fundamentally a neutral tool, but as much as it may be sued for evil, it may accelerate flawed economic and environmental systems to a breaking point where a redesign of those structures will be required, which could be the greatest opportunity to implement better structures that we’ve had since the industrial revolution.

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I generally agree. My focus was on the “business model” side, where people act like the web exists only to serve business interests. The Web will be just fine, possibly even better, if some of these companies monetizing everything were to fail.

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109 points

Yeah well maybe the web shouldn’t be a business

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50 points

god what I wouldnt give to go back to the days of the mid 90s, when the internet was nothing more than a collection of tech weirdos, with websites being nothing more than passion projects with no advertising, no SEO, no search engines, etc etc.

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Will give a spin

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2 points

Tried a few searches. “no results”. Oh well

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13 points

there was plenty of advertising on america online though almost ever keyword was to a business that was an advertisement.

i do agree that web 1.0 and the 90s internet was superior

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will give a spin Sorry answered wrong comment. Big finger issue

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1 point

Can’t we go back? What’s stopping you?

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28 points

the pesky linearity of time as we understand it.

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Nothing, really.

We’re the only ones stopping ourselves. The 90s and everything that made is ‘great’ is still here, we just choose not to use it.

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37 points

America: “No money = no purpose”

the o’l capitalist shalamalama ding-dong…

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That’s not gonna happen, and I even disagree with the statement but I can see the merit in it.

That being said the new business model will be the old business model, where everything is paid for. And I do not think that’s so bad, for example I’d pay for a browser if it respects my privacy.

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You can’t say something like that without bringing forth some arguments…

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