8 points

Lol that’s like saying worlds biggest virus creator which makes him billions of dollars now also providing anti virus for free.

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Exactly lmao. I don’t trust Google with shit, so I’m still going to install GrapheneOS and Mullvad as soon as I get the 8.

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I second Graphene and Mullvad.

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As a Pixel owner, how much do you lose in terms of the pixel-exclusive software when using graphene?

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Critically you lose financial apps and gpay nfc

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I mainly want to know what the included apps are like. Mainly if they use material three or not and if they actually look decent unlike the ones with lineageos

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As much or as little as you like, as Graphene uses a sandbox for Google Play Services. It’s up to the user, some have more or less degoogled completely (like myself), and others use the same apps they did on stock Android, but with harsher permissions.

I’ve not found any real difficulty getting away from the apps I used to use, as there are FOSS alternatives for almost all of them that imo, work much better and require far less personal data (two I use on a daily basis are a NewPipe fork with Sponsorblock functionality, and InnerTune, which has completely replaced Spotify for me.) I do still use Google Maps, albeit with all permissions other than network restricted (as I don’t use real time navigation, and have yet to find an alternative that matches it for business detail accuracy, street view and ease of use.) I also still use Google Camera, albeit without any network or other nonessential permissions.

So basically, Graphene can be used the same way as stock Android. It just gives you options and control over your device and digital privacy. GrapheneOS is first and foremost about device security, and is the best custom OS out there in its field.

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104 points

Imagine routing all your traffic through a google server.

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well the most used custom dns is 8.8.8.8

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I mean this only routes a small amount to their servers, the actual data to use a website isn’t sent to 8.8.8.8.

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still name resolutions is a big amount of data

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What is Google gonna get from encrypted HTTPS requests that they don’t already get from the associated DNS requests?

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Persistent notification is one of the best parts about using an always on VPN. You can check the status really quickly

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Would be better if it were optional. The little key in the status area is more than enough indication for me. A persistent notification is not a notification, it’s a hack.

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The hack is the aggressive battery optimization in some phones that don’t respect the native Android battery optimization settings and still kill apps.

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I get it, and i guess the fault is on Google for not providing an alternative for such apps. Still a hack though, because such things don’t belong in the user’s notifications.

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It is optional unless I misunderstood. You can disable the persistent notification by disabling VPN notifications in the Google One app.

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Weird, my Pixel 6a currently doesn’t have a persistent notification when I use Proton. Is this a GrapheneOS thing? Just curious.

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Have you enabled notifications for it? I use Proton with GrapheneOS. I keep the ProtonChannel notifications disabled normally as I don’t need to see it. Enabling it, I see the persistent notification as expected.

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Can confirm. I was able to replicate the behavior. Cheers

What reason would there be to enable notifications?

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for zero tier or tailscale it’s nice when you forget that you are connected and it’s causing problems for whatever reason

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What if you don’t want it?

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