22 Democrats Sponsor a Bill That Could Censor Abortion Info From the Internet::The Kids Online Safety Act is “a blank check” for Republican AGs to “intimidate any way they can,” a digital civil liberties advocate told Jezebel.

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Cmon democrats, you’re supposed to be the lesser evil…

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This isn’t about kids and it isn’t about abortion it’s about limiting people’s access to unmediated information. The Democrats have just as much to lose as the Republicans if a third party which is a lesser evil than either emerges. Or, seeing as this is America we’re talking about, greater evil.

Whatever. They don’t want people being able to just organise themselves as they please online.

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If you can only vote for one option then the better a 3rd party does the more it hurts the main party closest to it. I would expect Democrats and Republicans to be funding 3rd parties in the hopes of improving their chances of getting the most votes.

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For the 2020 election in my state, republican groups funded the campaign to collect signatures for the green party to be on the ballot. So your expectations are met.

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Was there ever proof that the Republicans donated to Nader in the 2000 election? Seems they did just about everything they could to deny the popular vote…

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Republicans have funded the Green Party for a long time now at least. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dems were funding the libertarian party.

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They are, but the question has always been how much evil is acceptable to you, because the democrats know what they are and they’ll run whoever they can get away with. The worse the Republican option is, the lower the quality of candidate the Dems will forward. They know what their donors want.

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Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting evil. It’s allowed this country to continue to slip AS A WHOLE in the wrong direction.

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Accelerationist begone

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Logically? It’s actually not. Democrats are still not alt right facists even if this bill is based in stupidity.

A third party right now can’t mathematically win, and the thing is with the current Republican party (which is basically our Nazi party) if you vote for a third party at this point, you are outright throwing your vote to the nazis.

So, yes- it shouldn’t ideally work like this, but in reality, does. And not voting Democrat right now or voting third party means voting for Republicans, which is even riskier, and arguably, voting for an even greater evil given Republicans have our Supreme Court packed right now and we can’t afford to lose it any elections from here forward.

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I’d argue many democrats don’t support progressive policies. I’d argue many of them are where they are from straight ticket voting. If dems could actually move the needle on policy impacting the general population noticeably, far right repubs wouldn’t stand a chance. Instead you have a huge percentage of the population refusing to even participate in elections because they think it’s a waste of time. Voting for any and every dem just cause they’re a dem sends the message their current policies and performance has been acceptable.

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Let’s put it this way: you have one vote against the worst popular evil by voting for the other evil. So your vote is still necessary to keep the worst one at bay.

If you don’t vote or you use your vote for any other reason, one of the two big parties is still going to fill that seat. So your power in this situation is very limited.

If you don’t want a Democrat in that office, vote Republican.

If you don’t want a Republican in that seat, vote for the Democrat candidate.

Do anything else and one of the two above will take the post.

(Some local elections in the US have been improved from FPTP so you may have better options in those.)

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Devil’s advocate: if total number of votes drop enough, then maybe a third political party might step up enough because they see there is enough potential voters who aren’t voting for D or R. Or maybe it will signal to more candidates like Bernie Sanders to run under existing parties instead of the run of the mill ones.

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I’m pretty sure no one can “help” the working class

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How’s that?

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Well the working class could. But that’s why they keep us divided.

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What a simplistic way to look at the problem.

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They are full of baloney.

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lesser, but still evil.

The internet threatens their power base and they value their power more than they value any principle

If the leopards don’t come for their faces from the right, those they betrayed on the left will.

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If you continually vote for the lesser of two evils, youll end up with the most imaginable evil.

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Dems are the faces, and repubs are the heels. But they’re both working towards the same goals, for the same boss. Every notice how all the really damaging legislation is always bipartisan?

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This is violently anti-intellectual freedom.

Factual information doesn’t “harm children.” If your kid isn’t ready to learn about the world, it’s your job to do some parenting.

The fact that these AGs won’t be using a bill like this to remove right wing propaganda from the internet tells you this is just a censorship tool, at best.

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How many children did you rise? Just asking, because you seem to know how easy it is.

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Welp. Guess I’m giving my senator a call today.

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