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I’m all for services making a reasonable profit and being able to fund new shows and such endeavors…

But we’re rapidly getting into an environment of “soaking viewers for all we can get out of them” simply to feed the fucking shareholders ever larger payouts.

Thank you Milton Friedman. 🖕

🙄 🤡 🖕

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There’s a word for that: enshittification

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the word is actually “capitalism.” it’s baked into its dna.

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Capitalism - and I am the last person to defend it - didn’t used to be like this, or at least not as bad. shrug I could probably tolerate capitalism if, say, no company was allowed to employ more than say 15 people.

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Or sinisterization.

There was a lot of pioneering in the 70’s. The first home computers, the first video games, the first mobile phones, all right there in the late 70’s. Most people ended the 70’s living like they did in the 60’s but now there’s cool shit like the Speak n’ Spell. The average American home in 1979 had no microwave oven, a landline telephone and a TV that might have even been color. There were some nerds who had TRS-80s, some of them even had a modem so they could 300 baud each other. Normies saw none of this.

There was a lot of invention in the 80’s. Home computer systems, video games etc. as we now commonly know them crystalized in the 80’s. We emerged from the 80’s with Nintendo as the dominant video game console platform, Motorola as basically the only name in cellular telephones and with x86 PCs running Microsoft operating systems as the dominant computing platform with Apple in a distant but solid second place. Video games were common, home computers weren’t that out there, people still had land lines, and maybe cable TV or especially if you were out in the sticks you might have one of those giant satellite dishes. If you were a bit of an enthusiast you might have a modem to dial BBSes and that kind of stuff, but basically no one has an email address.

There was a lot of evolution in the 90’s. With the possible exception of the world wide web which was switched on in August of '91, there weren’t a lot of changes to how computing worked throughout the decade. Compare an IBM PS/2 from 1989 with a Compaq Presario from 1999. 3 1/4" floppy disk, CRT monitor attached via VGA, serial and parallel ports, keyboard and mouse attached via PS2 ports, Intel architecture with Microsoft operating system…it’s the same machine 10 years later. The newer machine runs orders of magnitude faster, has orders of magnitude more RAM etc. but it still broadly speaking fills the same role in the user’s life. An N64 is exactly what you’d expect the NES to look like after a decade. Cell phones have gotten sleeker and more available but it’s still mostly a telephone that places telephone calls, it’s the same machine Michael Douglas had in that one movie but now no longer a 2 pound brick. Bring a tech savvy teen from 1989 to 1999 and it won’t take long to explain everything to him. The World Wide Web exists now, but a lot of retailers haven’t embraced the online marketplace, the dotcom bubble bursts, it’s not quite got the permanent grip on life yet.

There was a lot of revolution in the 2000’s. Higher speed internet that allow for audio and video streaming, mp3 players and the upheaval those caused, the proliferation of digital cameras, the rise of social media. When I graduated high school in 2005, there were no iPhones, no Facebook, no Twitter, no Youtube. Google was a search engine that was gaining ground against Yahoo. The world was a vastly different place by the time I was through college. Take that savvy teen from 1989 and his counterpart from 1999 and explain to them how things work in 2009. It’ll take a lot longer. In 2009 we had a lot of technology that had a lot of potential, and we were just starting to realize that potential. It was easy to see a bright future.

There was a lot of stagnation in the 2010’s. We started the decade with smart phones and social media, and we ended the decade with smart phones and social media. Performance numbers for machines kept going up but you kinda don’t notice; you buy a new phone and it’s so much faster and more responsive, 4 years later it barely loads web pages and takes forever to launch an app because mobile apps are gaseous, they expand to take up their system. A lot of handset manufacturers have given up so now there are fewer options, and they’ve converged to basically one form factor. Distinguishing features are gone, things we used to be able to do aren’t there anymore. The excitement wore off, this is how we do things now, and now everyone is here. Mobile app stores are full of phishing software, you’re probably better advised to just use the mobile browser if you can, mainstream video gaming is now just skinner boxes, and by the end of the decade social media is all about propaganda silos and/or attention draining engagement slop.

Now we arrive in the 2020’s where we find a lot of sinisterization. A lot of the tech world is becoming blatantly, nakedly evil. In truth this began in the 2010’s, it’s older than 4 years, but we’re days away from the halfway point of the decade and it’s becoming difficult to see the behavior of tech and media companies as driven only by greed, some of this can only come from a deep seated hatred of your fellow man. People have latched onto the term “enshittification” because it’s got the word shit in it and that’s hilarious, but…I see a spectrum with the stagnation of the teens represented with a green color and the sinisterization of the 20’s represented with red, and the part in the middle where red and green make brown is enshittification.

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I agree with all of that except the end: it’s definitely still greed, it’s just become easier to other your fellow man so you don’t even have to hate him, you can at best briefly consider his existence as you pave over him on your way to whatever absolute moral certitude you’re pursuing. That’s the true banality of evil: greed makes dehumanization so commonplace that advocating for awful shit to be done to your fellow human being isn’t even widely seen as evil anymore.

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21 points

I’m amazed that ads are so effective that they can make more cramming unwanted video in my face than just asking me for a couple bucks.

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No one wants to pay money for the services they’re using. Ads is the way to go.

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10 points

Nobody wants to pay for all the little individual piecemeal services and shit, because it’s wildly expensive and inconvenient, and because they keep adding ads to the paid stuff anyway because greed, so what benefit is there to paying?

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17 points

you just need to keep a shit list of brands that are now dead to you.

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46 points

I have a dwindling list of brands that are not yet dead to me.

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A good rule of thumb is that if you have heard of a brand but don’t remember anything positive about them they should probably be dead to you.

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The only brand I can think of that is truly not evil is valve, and that’s all cause of Gabe.

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9 points

All of them.

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2 points

exactly, if you want to be an ethical consumer you’d need to be a hermit.

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6 points

they already make significantly more profits off of each ad-tier sub than they do the ad-free… yet it still isn’t enough. greedy fucking bastards.

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How is showing me ads for things I will make a point not to buy because I implicitly hate the products of people showing me ads more profitable than the twenty fucking bucks a month I already give them?

Imagine if all that misallocated marketing budget got used to develop better products instead.

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And imagine if products that couldn’t get by on their own merits without ads wouldn’t exist at all. How much more productive and happy our society would be if we got rid of useless products and the negative feelings ads induce when we don’t have those useless products at the same time.

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Just imagine that your personal anecdote is not representative of human behaviour. The biggest lie and a myth is “I will pay more not to see ads”. No, you won’t.

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220 points

YAHAR!!! HOIST THE MAIN SAILS!!!

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41 points

ahoy!

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27 points

Implying there’s anything worth pirating on Netflix these days.

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32 points

Wednesday was pretty good

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37 points

You mean today? Today is Wednesday.

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20 points

Love death and Robots

Black Mirror

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No it wasn’t. The show made ZERO sense.

Wednesday running around trying to PREVENT murders? That makes no sense!

Plus, she’s being admitted into a school for people with special powers, but at the time of admittence, she has shown NO powers whatsoever. They do come later, but…when she’s admitted, she’s just a 16 year old girl.

Plus, that thing where she looks back on her ancestor with the last name “Adams”, but the ancestor is on her mothers side? Why would the ancestor have the last name Adams? That implies that if she’s both an Adams, AND the mothers ancestor, that the whole Adams family is built on incest.

And before you say the husband could have taken the mothers last name, first off, we know Morticia didn’t, and second, it would imply EVERY woman in the family timeline dating back to the 1700s also did this.

Simple solution to all this…first off, make it so Wednesday has some motivation or reason why she’s not the one committing the murders, but also make it a reluctant reason. She still enjoys the murders, but she’ll get kicked out of school if she’s involved. Then make it so without the degree she can’t get her liscense as an embalmer. Which without that, she’s forced to get a normal person job.

Then, keep her quirky room mate exactly the same. The only difference is, she’s not a warewolf. She’s just a preppy girl. Exactly as she was. She can turn into a warewolf later at the hands of Wednesday creating a potion or whatever, but it’s not naturally in her DNA.

Now onto the school. It’s not a school for monsters. It’s just a regular ol’ private school.

The preppy girl is the one solving the murders. Wednesday is reluctantly helping her. The rest of the school shits all over Wednesday, but this preppy girl is the one person who accepts Wednesday for who she is. So even though Wednesday LOVES the murders, she also sees the good in the preppy girl. She becomes protective of her. The rest of the town can fuck off, but the preppy girl is different.

So she goes around town with the preppy girl TRYING to stay out of actually solving the murders, while still supporting the preppy girl. The problem is the preppy girl is REALLY BAD at solving these murders. Remember, she’s just a regular 16 year old girl. Meanwhile Wednesday has her periodic visions that solve the murders.

And the bad guy makes no sense either. He hates the school because they have magic powers. So to defeat them he creates a cult of people with magic powers?

I say make him just hate the Adams Family, including Wednesday. And his plan isn’t to do magical spooky shit. He’s just going to straight up kill Wednesday, until the preppy girl drinks the warewolf potion.

See? Now it all makes sense, and doesn’t go against the core concept of the character. You can even keep in the viral dance.

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2 points

Season 2 available yet?

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8 points

I liked Kaos. Of course, it only got one season.

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2 points

Too good for Netflix

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7 points

Really enjoyed One Piece live action

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Ye that one was good too

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7 points

The latest Black Mirror is excellent!

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21 points

The seas are truly splendid. I can only but pity the landlubbers.

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124 points

They want the old cable tv days back, but worse

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Streaming was different for years and years. But then people got greedy.

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For ages the four nations lived in harmony…

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Way late to the party cuz im browsing top posts for the week, but you reminded me of how I refused to believe my father when he said cable TV used to be ad free. He said it was the whole point of paying for it back then cuz paying for TV didn’t exist yet.

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Way late to the party cuz im browsing top posts for the week, but you reminded me of how I refused to believe my father when he said cable TV used to be ad free. He said it was the whole point of paying for it back then cuz paying for TV didn’t exist yet.

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18 points

It’s quite something how they’re trying to force the Internet to work as an artificial version of things we already have, instead of using it for the unique purposes which it can actually fulfill.

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9 points

They want the old cable TV days, but worse, and filling their pockets instead.

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Youtube is also trying to be more like TV. Apparently, TV wasn’t bad enough.

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Nice thing is it can’t come back. There are too many other sources of entertainment and information to make one feel like one is missing out by simply opting out.

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117 points

This gem might need an update.

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I’m kinda proud of myself, that I skipped Netflix and never took off my pirate hat.

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I never took off my pirates hat but I have had a netflix account for about a year…

It wasn’t my account. One of my kids friends signed in to their profile on my TV so I used it every now and again until the password sharing option was taken away.

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Stremio plus real debrid for the win…

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“[Netflix] members pay as much attention to midroll ads as they do to the shows and movies themselves,” Amy Reinhard, president of advertising at Netflix, said, per the publication.

Amy, I want you to be honest with me, are you an alien.

Because on planet Earth we do not, if fact, pay as much attention to the ads as to the things we’re actually interested in. Famously our brains even produce this fascinating effect to spare us from the bullshit you’re shoving into our eyeballs.

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I’m just waiting for it to be like that Black Mirror episode where ads came on, the guy closed his eyes, and alarms went off until he opened them again.

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The bad thing about those kind of shows, is that while most people see that as a warning, and something to avoid.

Some people immediately start charting a path to how to make it a reality, and sometimes those people are very very smart and can chart a path that might take decades.

I say this while on the toilet, writing on a device that has cameras both front and back, always on microphones and location sensors, and facial recognition and 3D scanning equipment.

When the personalized condom ads start popping up, I will only be slightly annoyed.

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i think in netflix’s case, they might actually be paying as much attention to the ads as they do the shows, which is to say none at all

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This is exactly how I interpreted that statement. No one is paying attention, who cares if they slip some garbage ads in?

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“People watch ads,” says the one selling ads.

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