cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/22189256

The latest data, for the first quarter of 2025, shows that China’s CO2 emissions have now been stable or falling for more than a year, as shown in the figure below.

However, with emissions remaining just 1% below the recent peak, it remains possible that they could jump once again to a new record high.

Outside of the power sector, emissions increased 3.5%, with the largest rises in the use of coal in the metals and chemicals industries.

Sector-by-sector analysis suggests that, in addition to the power sector, emissions have likely also peaked in the building materials and steel sectors, as well as oil products consumption.

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I hate China, but at times they do correct shit and because of the structure of the government it’s almost always successful.

Wish they didn’t have so much human rights violations.

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I don’t know what community to post this in either so I’m just gonna add it here, hexbear and Lemmygrad claim to be communists, claim to not be revisionists, claim to use materialistic dialectics, but have you ever visited their ProleWiki? Shit is full with contradictions, how are you gonna educate socialists when your own encyclopedia can’t even get itself right? Actively denying reality is the opposite of what Marx wrote.

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Excellent news!

Now it’s on US deniers - we can no longer claim we shouldn’t do anything because China is not

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I hate to be the bearer of unpopular takes but it’s likely a sign of a shrinking economy. That‘s something that won‘t convince any voters at the moment.

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That’s what I keep telling delayers who always say that China pollutes so much it’s not worth doing any effort without them. The day that the Chinese government decides to go green it will be done in a matter of years, the day that the US decides to go green it will be done in a matter of decades.

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I personally suspect the crash in solar panel prices is a result of them deciding to get on with fixing the problem. Basically turn it from a political problem to an economic one.

They are also pushing hard for both modern nuclear fission and nuclear fusion power. Once they start coming online in bulk, their CO2 output will likely plummet.

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the day that the US decides to go green…

pfff

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Noone ever believes me when I tell them that at >20% yearly growth, solar alone is going to overtake fossil in a decade

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People don’t understand how growth works. And there’s a lot of fossil fuel propaganda (“what are you going to do at night / when there’s no wind”). You can deal with those things using batteries, pumped storage and by shifting load.

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Solar panel cost drops -50% each 11-12 years too. It’s crazy actually.

I have done some napkin calculations and those 400W balcony panels (full kit) are paid off in around 5 years. And it’s just getting better and better.

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ROI of on-grid solar, just in general, is 5-7 years. Down from 10-15 some 10-15 years ago.

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They probably don’t believe you because most of the time a 20% growth rate doesn’t just stay constant for a decade, allowing for such simplistic extrapolations. There are examples to the contrary. But a 20% growth rate means 750% growth over 10 years and that is a lot.

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Depends on the location and season, but yeah, I can see that.

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Then we must invent some way of transporting electricity, like cables, pylons or something 😉

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Throw the electricity into the trunk of my car I’ll drive it over to the next town that needs it. Just clear some room next to my backpack

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Of course it will, but its too late. We need it now.

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Not to ruin it for anyone but the only reason is that solar is the cheapest option nowadays…

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Why would that ruin it?

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