We tried to warn you
People talk about Biden’s mental decline as if it matters. Trump has mental decline too. One President’s handlers were able to pass laws and get shit done, the others’ well…
K, but he’s no longer the president.
How is the current president doing?
VERY STABLE, in all caps, apparently. Because that’s how stable people type all the time. You’re also not supposed to take anything he says seriously, y’know…like every other stable and speaking person. That’s how that works.
Yep an Administration is more than just the president. It’s the competent people that surround him. Instead of having a president suffering from lapses surrounded by some of the best most competent people. Now we have an idiot surrounded by sycophants and sociopaths. This is so much better/s
Yep an Administration is more than just the president. It’s the competent people that surround him.
Yeah, having a bunch of anti-worker, pro-coporate, war-mongers led to people being desperate enough to vote for Trump. Maybe Biden should have done something about that when he had the chance, so that people wouldn’t be so disenfranchised with the Democrats that made Trump seem eligible.
Yes he should have I agree. But I also think that a lot of the people screeching about Gaza Etc should not have Amplified fascist talking points and made it worse. The fact that a lot of these people thought Trump was better than Biden simply because people weren’t talking about Trump being exactly the same or worse is just as damning as anything the Democrats did. And it’s pathetic to see so many of you try to shirk any blame for this and put it all on the democrats. They definitely deserve their fair share. But so do you all.
Biden hasn’t been president for over a hundred days now perhaps you should get a life
That you think the two are remotely similar, shows how disingenuous you are. That you imply that this was unusual or even noteworthy at this point. Implies your ignorance of even relatively recent history. You do realize you’ve breached your instances echo chambers.
I never actually advocated for either candidate. But we told you it was going to be a Democrat or Republican regardless of what we wanted. But people like yourself actively ignored what was actually on the ballot. Instead campaigning to assist the fascist. Which is unsurprising. Someone from a pro authoritarian instance feeling more comfortable getting a fellow authoritarian elected.
We all want better. But we’ll never achieve it. Because so many of you fail to understand the basic assignment or options available. Doing more harm than good in all the uninformed flailing.
some are definitely sycophants; but i think most are useful idiots and i think you’re seeing here how effectively they’re being redirected by shills and other idiots to the re-frame the discourse away from biden and onto trump; i hope you continue to persist despite their downvotes and their attempts to goad you into getting banned or making you turn away from your efforts.
The current president is doing terrible. But Trump wouldn’t be president if Biden hadn’t been such a terrible president.
Maybe Biden should have fought for the people he proposed to represent, so that everyone wouldn’t be so desperate to see the system burn down that they were willing to vote for Trump.
K, but he’s no longer the president.
And since centrists are determined to keep making the same mistakes, we can’t talk about his mistakes.
the significance here is that one of the 2 major parties attempted to push him as a presidential candidate until his mental condition became publicly unavoidable and would lead to further questions of why the genocide was allowed persist.
this also explains why trump was never prosecuted and barred from becoming the next president and sweeping these questions under the rug to re-frame the focus of discussion on trump is a clear appeal to the pointless and neverending culture war that prevents us from fighting the class struggle that tried to push biden into the presidency and allow trump to take it.
He’s trash, but liberals refusing to see the obvious led to where we are, refusing to hold them accountable led to where we are now
Liberals played their part, that’s true. The problem is people like yourself don’t acknowledge your part in it.
What part? Pointing out that the Democrats clear failures led to Trump being elected?
It seems like people who point out why Trump got elected should be taken seriously instead of being dismissed. Maybe learning and avoiding the obvious mistakes of the past is a good idea.
The problem is people like yourself don’t acknowledge your part in it.
You will not be content until everyone to your left and only your left is silent so your parties can move right like you want.
> We tried to warn you
> .ml user
You’ve made 10 posts on Lemmy and 6 of them are shitting on Biden by name. 2 of the remaining 4 are shitting on Harris by name. Kind of sounds like an unhealthy obsession, in multiple ways.
Why not shit on a terrible president, and a terrible candidate that directly led to Trump getting re-elected? Maybe if the dems had been willing to call out their own, we wouldn’t be where we are now.
Trump admin just announced they’re ethnic cleansing 1m Palestinians from Gaza, but thank you for holding the memory lapse thing to account 🫡
Ethnic cleansing enabled by democrats that claim they supported a ceasefire when they did no such thing. An ethnic cleansing enabled by liberal voters parroting those lies to people that were calling them out
Warn us about what ?
I mean … so what did Biden do as a response ?
Didn’t Biden step aside instead of threatening to invade allies ?
Biden was given the same unlimited power from a SCOTUS ruling for any official act the POTUS could not be criminalized. And Biden put aside power and force for the greater good of the Republic.
But then again Biden has always been more a new Cincinnatus than a new Caesar.
The same Biden who hung on desperately until the last minute? Until he was forced out after being insanely and obviously unfit for the position?
The same Biden who refused to act against when a dictatorship knocked on his front door? The same Biden who sacrificed the “good of the Republic” because he cared more about holding on to power than the cared about fighting against fascism?
Democrats refusing to see what was in front of them led to trump running and winning. They lied about his mental capacity, they lied about a ceasefire, theyve endlessly lied. And those of us pointing it out were accused of helping Republicans. Turns out VBNMW helped trump.
If the Democrats had convinced Biden not to run for reelection (or invoked the 25th Amendment), held a proper primary, nominated a genuinely popular candidate, clearly denounced Israel’s actions, and offered a cohesive, forward-looking platform - one that voters could support rather than just oppose - the US might not be in this mess right now. Alternatively, they could have prosecuted and convicted Trump for treason or inciting insurrection between 2021 and 2024, and barred him from running for office again. In either case, their failure to act decisively has directly contributed to facilitating Trump’s return.
Sure, but that “genuinely popular candidate” may still have been Harris, or even worse, Gavin Newsom. Even though neither would have won the Lemmy Primary …
“May have…”? It was pretty clear early on that Harris wasn’t popular. Maybe if the Democratic party had actually given a shit about winning, we wouldn’t have Trump as a president. But the Democratic leadership cared more about propping up a terrible candidate like Biden than they cared about keeping Trump out of office.
Harris? The candidate who received exactly 844 votes in the 2020 primaries and secured zero delegates? The same vice president who, as of June 2023, held a net favorability rating of -17% - the lowest ever recorded for someone in that office? Newsom? A textbook status-quo California liberal? If these are your “best” options, then frankly, you kind of deserve to lose.
You’re not wrong, but the Democratic Primary is not set up to pick the best candidate. It’s set up to coronate the one who is next in line.
When Obama won in 2008, it was actually an aberration. The party made sure to fix it in 2016, when thet shut down the old Socialist’s campaign in order to coronate the first woman President. How did that turn out?
If there were a primary in 2024, they would have put their finger on the scale again to pre-nominate someone. The only open question would have been if they were compelled to nominate someone without a penis again. It seems too many voters see having a penis as a requirement for the job. So if it came down to the quasi-incumbent, penis-lacking VP against an individual experienced, penis-having contender, then it might have an actual contest.
