82 points

I hope Intel can get a solid foothold between AMD and Nvidia. There really needs to be more fairly priced competition in the GPU market.

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intel is making insane Ws with that pricing

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It’s normal pricing if we go back a few years. The prices of nowadays’ cards are going to kill PC gaming if they remain so high.

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I’m hoping Intel can really compete with AMD and Nvidia and their high end cards with this sort of pricing. should hopefully bring it back down to reasonable levels

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Even if they just carve out the lower end/budget end for themselves, would be a huge W for gaming.

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Intel, AMD and Nvidia are for-profit businesses. Their goal is to make money.

Competition is only a good thing, but that’s not enough. Seeing the price ranges of AMD and Nvidia - there is no way Intel wouldn’t increase prices.

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2 points

I mean probably in the future, but for now they are trying to capture a new public, with better prices.

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3 points

Yes, logical step now is to be attractive now to a new customers and that’s done by offering a low prices.

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32 points

This would have sold really well if they had the sorcery to have done it during peak covid

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31 points

That power consumption though… The price difference against the 3050 will be eaten up by the electricity bill really fast

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If my math is right, the 50W difference, at my power rate of $0.15/kWh, will take 2666 hours and 40 minutes to make up the $20 difference in price.

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In europe that situation will be wildly different. Here in germany you won’t get under 0.50$/kWh (edit: more like .30 now) so it’s more like 500 to 800 hours

Edit 2: wow, thanks for the hint! I just halved my prices by switching

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22 points

wait what? i’m paying ~0.30$/kwh at the moment in germany

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Those were last year’s prices during the height of the energy crisis. I was paying 0.60€/kWh last year (new contract). I renegotiated this year and got it lowered to about 0.27€/kWh.

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6 points

Germany is an outlier though. Most of Europe is around 10 cents. Today’s price in Finland is <0.5 cents.

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True, but that’s still on the order of time that you may never reach the price difference in the lifespan of the GPU.

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I switched to a half hourly tracker earlier this year. So it’s like 10-15p/kWh (and sometimes as low as negative so they pay you to use the electricity) and jumping to 30-40p between 4pm and 7pm.

As someone working from home with pretty much constant electricity use all day, it’s saved me tons.

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I live in a rural part of the US (Which is honestly most of it) and electricity runs about $0.12/kWh. Ya’lls prices are mind blowing. Especially since we heat with electric heat pumps. At those rates my electric bill would be about $625/mo instead of $250/mo.

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That’s only one gaming session!

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Yikes, in Québec we have hydro electricity that’s owned by the government, everyone gets the first 40kWh of the day at 0.065$CAD and the rest is like 0.10CAD. I think the energy situation in Europe is too dependent on private companies that decide what price they want between each other and they agree to keep the prices high, kind of like here we have that with internet and cell service…

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Love the pricing! But why do they have to bundle mandatory telemetry in their installer and graphics utility 😭 I would have made the jump for this if they had an option to install drivers only

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On the Linux side, you get people installing debug builds of drivers, bisecting to identify which commit broke something, doing apitraces, capturing crash dumps and opening bug reports to submit that stuff to driver devs.

You don’t really get that sort of thing on Windows, so the drivers try to do it through telemetry. It’s how the devs know which games or hardware configs are crashing and need fixes.

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I would if I could.

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Because they’re new, they really need that telemetry data to improve arc. And they’ve clearly been using it cause of how much they’ve improved since launch

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Well said. Can’t argue with that.

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Use Linux?

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5 points

Simulator gear not compatible ☹️. I use Linux on my laptop though 😁

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Damn that’s tuff

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