Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia has benefited from waiting to reveal where he stands as the swing vote in a chamber closely divided between Democrats and Republicans.

He’s taken the same approach when it comes to the next phase of his political career: The moderate Democrat has teased possible retirement, a run for reelection to the Senate or even a presidential campaign in 2024 — possibly as an independent candidate.

During a multi-day trip to West Virginia’s capital this week, the 76-year-old expressed growing frustration with the polarized U.S. two-party system.

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I agree with him that the two party system is broken, but we don’t need more so-called centrists. We already have a center-right party in the Democrats.

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We also don’t need yet another self-obsessed septuagenarian calling shots that will have ramifications long after they’re dead. Especially one who owes their wealth and influence to fucking coal.

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During a multi-day trip to West Virginia’s capital this week, the 76-year-old expressed growing frustration with the polarized U.S. two-party system.

Then use your position in the Senate to pressure the state legislature and Governor to reform your state’s election process.

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the 76-year-old expressed growing frustration with the polarized U.S. two-party system.

…which, of course, Manchin is all too willing to exploit.

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At least it’s not 700,000,000$ yacht that president somehow has, while it would take him 6000 years to get such insane aboumt of money in presidential salary.

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If Manchin peels off enough centrists that he acts as a spoiler, centrists will blame progressives anyway.

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Honestly, progressives will be blamed no matter what happens.

Would love to see progressives break away from Dems and try for a legit 3rd party run to spite this. We’re long overdue for the corporate wing of both parties to converge into the new GOP, and with MAGA imploding it seems the time is right.

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The party system isn’t the problem. The ability for your stupid ass to be a spoiler candidate is the problem.

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I think the situation we have with these tiny majorities is exactly because of the two-party system we have. Anybody in his state who doesn’t want a hard-right MAGA Senator knows they have to vote for him as long as he’s the Democratic nominee.

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Ok but the two party system is why he can be a spoiler. He might be a dickhead, but he isn’t wrong that our first-past-the -post election system (which begets two party races) is a huge problem.

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Ranked Choice would stop a lot of these dicks from running these spoiler campaigns. Wouldn’t be worth the effort at that point.

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Yes ranked choice would be a huge benefit for many reasons.

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The Mice once called a meeting to decide on a plan to free themselves of their enemy, the Cat. At least they wished to find some way of knowing when she was coming, so they might have time to run away. Indeed, something had to be done, for they lived in such constant fear of her claws that they hardly dared stir from their dens by night or day.

Many plans were discussed, but none of them was thought good enough. At last a very young Mouse got up and said:

"I have a plan that seems very simple, but I know it will be successful.

All we have to do is to hang a bell about the Cat’s neck. When we hear the bell ringing we will know immediately that our enemy is coming."

All the Mice were much surprised that they had not thought of such a plan before. But in the midst of the rejoicing over their good fortune, an old Mouse arose and said:

“I will say that the plan of the young Mouse is very good. But let me ask one question: Who will bell the Cat?”

It is one thing to say that something should be done, but quite a different matter to do it.

–Aesop

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