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Fucking cunts.

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Monetary needs and all that. If it’s a startup with VC then there is either not enough people paying or not enough private users supporting by other means like bug fixing, support, etc. Or greed by VC. But in general, what do we expect where the time comes from people spend on coding for us? See openssl that is essential and was about to loose its main dev. Pay or donate or contribute. Preferably to a non VC project.

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Monetary needs and all that. If it’s a startup with VC then there is either not enough people paying or not enough private users supporting by other means like bug fixing, support, etc. Or greed by VC.

Well, VC is greedy by design. A VC-funded business will never be optimized for longevity, a good product or happy customers. They may achieve those things en passant, but they’re never the objective.

For example: Any case of “there is not enough people paying” can also be rendered as “the scale and moving speed of the business is way off”.

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I’ve completely switched away from using Minio (and just the S3 protocol in general) in all of my projects.

I’ve found that the WebDAV protocol is better for object storage in almost every case. It’s also way simpler to use and understand.

Now it’s time for me to shill:

I wrote my own WebDAV server called Nephele. It’s free and open source, and you can run it on Docker. Probably doesn’t help if you’re using something that requires S3, but if you’re building something, I implore you to migrate away from S3.

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Why is WebDAV better?

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It’s simpler, there is a client for everything even mobile phones, it has a move command, it has props that can be edited without a copy command, pagination is however you set it up to be rather than a one size fits all approach, it can be just as scalable as S3 if you build it to be, it has much simpler locks that make them easier to use so you might actually use them, keys can be longer than 1024 characters, actual directories exist.

That’s just the protocol level. The biggest benefit for me isn’t really at the protocol level, but part of the design of my own WebDAV server: deduplication. I can throw the same file into my server with 50 different keys, and it will only take up the space of one copy on disk. This basically moved the logic of deduplication from my application to the blob store. Mountains easier from an application design perspective.

There are use cases where S3 is better, but they are few and far between. And, WebDAV is extensible. You can build whatever functionality you need into it, rather than using some proprietary protocol.

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Thanks!

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MacOS hates webdav (And I do hate my Mac too !) And their implementation is outdated… Maybe I didn’t find the right configuration to make is work properly like samba shares (after some special/specific mac configuration on the samba server side it works like a charm !!) but whenever a file got updates in an automated way, it somehow goes poof and vanished from my server… Scary shit !

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Yeah WebDAV is significantly better for our use cases, S3 has so many weird limitations and it’s hard to find clients for it.

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New fork incoming in 3…2…

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Let’s hope for a fork. If I wanted CLI only, I would use Garage…

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Minio is honestly kinda “meh” from an Ops perspective. I’d prefer something that doesn’t require a UI myself. They do have some extras that Garage doesn’t provide, but they can be addressed at different levels of interaction.

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But it is / was very friendly for users to create new users, edit bucket policies and so on without annoying CLI commands

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74 points

Well there’s your problem.

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The AI advertising is just a symptom of the underlying issue; VC funding.

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The more I learn about AI the more I feel like it’s another dot-com bubble.

LLMs and generative AI are such multifaceted systems that saying “this is for AI” is like saying “this is for the WWW”

Databases, interfaces, storage, networking. All are used in AI but if you just say you make a database and not and “AI database” you’ll lose out on investors.

It’s a bit like the gold rush in that everyone is so fixated on the gold that they don’t see the real economic boom is selling the shovels and building the trains.

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People have been using AI tech for decades. It’s just marketing terms come and go.

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That’s because it is another bubble. They’re all bubbles IMO. Since the boom of the internet they’ve all been scrambling from one fools gold rush to the next. Crypto, nft, metaverse, AI. Heel even social media that was given freely isn’t returning the expected investments and that’s why they’re all enshitiffying.

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VC?

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Venture capital

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Well there’s your other problem.

Next, you’re going tell me a billionaire’s involved somehow!

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Looks like it’s Michael Dell and Masayoshi Son.

Investors include Intel (Pat Gelsinger, net worth ~82m), Dell (Michael Dell, ~112b), and SoftBank (Masayoshi Son, ~29b). Probably others, but I’m on my phone so getting this info is awkward.

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Yeah, a few years ago they advertised themselves as the perfect storage solution for blockchain projects.

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