For me its the ‘Knock Code’ that LG had on their phones (I really wish LG still made at least the V series phones)

Basically there was a four-square area and you set up a sequence of where you would tap to unlock the phone. That set of squares was only shown when you set up the code

Then, to unlock your phone, you would tap those areas in the sequence you set up (even with the screen off).

Fingerprint readers are nice, but I really do miss the knock code

Edit: did find this article with a way to do the knock code, but if done wrong, could brick your phone I guess.

Plus, article is from 2014. When I looked at XDA’s info on it (they also being the developers) it looks like development on it is over, but individual modules may or may not still be supported by their devs

57 points

Physical keyboards.

permalink
report
reply
24 points

Or even just the navigation buttons being separate from the screen.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I really miss how the blackberry volume rocker buttons would seek media on a long press

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

My oneplus does that when the screen is off. But you just reminded me how much I miss my blackberry curve, that thing was rad. One gripe was the trackball would get filthy, then they released the touch track thing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Preach it, brother!

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points
*

What sucks is it would be easily doable.

Before smartphones were big I had a Samsung Messager (I think) with a slide out keyboard). Why not? A slide out keyboard would be sweet, and then you could choose to enable the digital keyboard if you wanted.

Wonder if they make a phone case with a keyboard (they certainly make the bluetooth keyboards for phones)

Edit: did some looking. It looks like they used to make these in a way I was thinking, such as this one

They don’t seem to make them that way now (at least not for phones). I did run into a phone that has a new-ish phone that has a physical keyboard

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I’ve seen such keyboard, packaged neatly into a folding case. Problem is the keyboard doesn’t have enough weight to support the phone so it becomes awkward trying to hold the weight of the phone with your fingers while typing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Brave.

Wrong but brave

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

I could type almost three times as fast on a t9 as I can on a touch screen, and I’ve written an entire novel on a touch screen.

The old ways are forgotten. They were not wrong.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I still have my G1 and G2, both in their original boxes. I adored the G1 so much.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

PinePhone with keyboard case!

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I do miss the tactile nature of it. However, I honestly don’t think I’d trade screen space for it again.

permalink
report
parent
reply
62 points
*

Headphone jack, dedicated fingerprint reader, removable battery, physical sim card trays

Edit: expandable storage

permalink
report
reply
15 points

Definitely miss the dedicated fingerprint reader. Had a metal case once that came with a fairly thick (tempered glass I think) screen protector. Everything worked great except the fingerprint reader.

Removable batteries may come back since the European Union has mandated all smartphones have them by 2027

permalink
report
parent
reply
-6 points

Honestly? For all the bitching when Apple first removed it, I hadent and haven’t used wired headphones for a long while. I had Bluetooth headphones long before then.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Same

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I think it came a bit too soon. I had a mid-tier (couple hundred bucks) pair of headphones, so it was annoying to me until they broke and I moved to Bluetooth (Sony WH-1000 gang)

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

They did have a dongle for it. Annoying, but not insurmountable by any means.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

It’s probably a rarer use case, but I use the headphone jack on my S10 all the time to connect it to my stereo and get good audio quality, most cheaper bluetooth receivers only use SBC so the difference is quite noticeable. (Also because the S10 has a pretty good DAC).

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I use them daily at work. Luckily I found a pair with a lightning connector. I also use cable in the car (it’s too old for Bluetooth) and it’s a pain not being able to charge and listen.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

We have a Bluetooth adapter for our car audio and it’s great. Plugs into the aux jack and car power. Really handy not needing to plug in.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

I still don’t like them, audio gear should last, and Bluetooth earphones are the ultimate in disposable tech. Costs more, shorter lifespan; only good thing is that it’s a revenue driver for those producing them.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

I’ve owned three Bluetooth headsets in total. The first I lost, the second is now my wife’s, and the third I still use. I wouldn’t call them disposable, but I’ll agree they are easier to lose.

Something a wired set of anything can’t give me is absolute freedom to move my head and walk away from my phone. I will never willingly go back to wired for anything other than gaming.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-7 points

In my experience wired gear doesn’t last as long as wireless. The cable is a major weakness and there’s no affordable way around it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I use IEMs when I’m on the go. It would be much better if I had the functionality of using that port instead of the charging port.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I dont care about the jack, the lightning-3.5 for 10bucks is more than a-ok, that said fuck bluetooth headphones, apart from the “smart” features, sub 50$ cans can and will blow the audio quality out of the water for many of the “entry level” (quotes cause entry is still approaching 100 bucks) BT ones and when you match price it is no-contest.

That said BT cans are still fine but after dabbling with hi-fi I can’t go back to BT.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

physical sim card trays

Seems like a backwards move IMO. honestly haven’t needed a tray in ~6 years

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

That tray is important to me at least since my last couple phones used that same tray to also hold the SD card. I can’t speak for anyone else, but a phone without an SD card for extra storage is a huge NO from me, so that tray is an absolute make or break for what my next upgrade is gonna be.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I find them VERY useful because if you break your phone, you can just swap your sim into a backup immediately.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

But honestly it’s not a huge deal, I swapped an esim in under 3 minutes last week

permalink
report
parent
reply
103 points

Removable battery is the big one. I had a phone where they only cost like $15, so I could take 2 of them on a trip and last a week w/o charging.

permalink
report
reply
14 points

Removable batteries may come back since the European Union has mandated all smartphones have them by 2027

I did see that, of all phones and manufacturers, the Kyocera DuraForce Pro 3 on Verizon actually has removable batteries (and an sd card slot).

permalink
report
parent
reply
-7 points

The only phone I had to even consider changing the battery was a Windows phone in 2015 and the replacement battery was the same age (and degraded state) as the old one. I don’t get the need for quickly swappable batteries.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I used to carry a backup battery so if I was away from a charger camping or so ething I could just pop a fresh battery in

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

The real key to making this work properly is standardized battery sizes. You know, like the AA and AAA standards we’ve had for one hundred years.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

“Real” batteries would be too big because they need casing. Phone batteries on the other hand are fragile, because: no casing.

As I said, there’s no need for quick-change batteries like in an xbox controller, because most people can go years on a single one.

But a self-service battery change when it’s ruined should be a thing. Preferably without glued-in parts.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

There’s definitely a business opportunity for hot swapable batteries. I really don’t understand why no one is exploiting this market. Construction, factory and all scale workers need phones and if they can hotswap battery they’ll gonna love that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Samsung does produce the xcover series for construction/industrial use. I seriously considered one, the issue was it would have been a downgrade for me in CPU, display and doesn’t have dex

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Just curious, what situations do you find yourself in relatively frequently that a hot swappable batter would be more convenient?

Nowadays w/ 15 SOT I don’t think I’ve actually needed one minus camping where I don’t really use my phone much anyways.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
*

Being able to rip the battery out when the phone locks up. Needing to make sure it’s actually off and can’t be remotely powered on. When it’s 3 years old and the hardware is still well up to the task but the battery lasts 4 hours.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

They make rugged phones and tablets for industrial setting with replaceable batteries. But they are way more expensive that consumer devices of the same spec.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I don’t understand that argument, power banks are widely accessible nowadays, you can charge your phone without downtime, also can’t imagine charging this additional battery, like shutting the phone down jest to charge the second one? I’m all for user replaceable batteries tho in case of battery degradation and prolonging device’s life

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

While true, my personal gripe is when the main battery goes to shit. It’s nice to be able to swap it out and get another 3-4 years out of it

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Yeah that’s what I meant, it’s carrying extra batteries to swap in case one in the phone dies, that I don’t understand

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

At that point you are using outdated tech

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
-1 points

The next administration will just revoke it

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Not really how the EU works.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Squeeze to activate Google Assistant, from the Pixel 2 XL (and maybe others, I don’t remember)

permalink
report
reply
3 points

Some of the Samsungs that had a bixby button you could get an app that would let you customize it to go to Google Assistant. That was cool.

permalink
report
parent
reply
21 points
*

Modern computers are slow.

Specifically, modern computers have inherently more delay time between the keyboard (or other input devices), the software, and the display than much-older (1980s) computers. This means that it is not possible to create games that are as responsive to player inputs as the arcade, console, or microcomputer games of the past.

USB is slow. HDMI is slow.

permalink
report
reply
2 points

Fair point.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

These guys seem to agree https://zed.dev/

permalink
report
parent
reply

Asklemmy

!asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Create post

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

Icon by @Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de

Community stats

  • 9.2K

    Monthly active users

  • 5.4K

    Posts

  • 301K

    Comments