Android is struggling to keep its market share in the United States, as Apple continues to take over in the market. But, despite Android as a whole losing ground, Google Pixel phones are becoming a bigger slice of the US market.

Counterpoint Research reports that, in Q2 2023, US smartphone shipments dropped by 24% year-over-year. That includes both iPhones and Android phones, and virtually every brand saw a drop in shipments. Samsung saw US shipments drop by 37% while Motorola saw a 17% drop. TCL saw the biggest decline at just shy of 70% year-over-year, and even Apple saw a 6% drop.

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It’s still 45% marketshare Android vs 55% iOS. With the way the title reads, you’d think Android was down in the single digits and barely hanging on.

Personally I just don’t see how anyone uses iOS. The iPhone I have is just awful. The UI is clunky and I’m absolutely baffled why this stupid phone weighs so much. That’s not a good thing, damn it. My Samsung is infinitely better device in my opinion. But I’d still love to see a third player come in. I was sad when Microsoft killed off their phone OS. It might not have been great at the time, but more competition is always better. And then if course there’s also PalmOS. So sad to see such a cool OS die off.

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The UI is clunky

What do you mean by this? Is this just another “snappy” type thing that is meaningless?

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iOS seems to be meant for simplicity and ease of use. I mean, not that Android is confusing at all, but it seems that the less tech focused you are the more you gravitate toward iOS. I would never want an iPhone, but they seem to really kill it in the battery and camera departments.

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it’s hard to recommend the pixels when my own 7Pro has dust on the selfie camera but also it’s under the screen!!

I also suggested the phone to my friend when I got mine and she constantly keeps complaining about the battery. I should had told her to stick with the iPhone and be done. Thanks Google for the shitty hardware! and thanks to the Government for keeping Huawei, ZTE and Xiaomi out of the US market.

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iPhone battery life isn’t exactly impressive, either.

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All current iPhones are battery champs, what are you talking about?

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8 points

Okay your post was pretty good until you went off on the China rant at the end. Chinese phones like Huawei, ZTE and Xiaomi have far worse quality control issues than something like the Google Pixel has.

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I’m not advocating for Chinese phones in particular, but there are no other alternatives as far as I know. Samsung & Google seems to be stagnating and the only valid alternative is just Apple for us.

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Not to mention empower a hostile foreign power. We shouldn’t be sending tons of money to China. We definitely shouldn’t be sending tons of money to China so that they can send us technology which they could remotely brick or watch on large swaths of the population.

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11 points

My Android phone fucking blows. The one I had prior was great but I lost it. I hate the constant alerts from the apps I can’t delete, I can’t take up close photos anymore without it looking like shit and not focusing, the screen will flip horizontal at random times when it’s got the lock screen option turned on. I don’t want a Google phone, though.

Anyone have opinions on the OnePlus phones?

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14 points

Apps you can’t delete? Gotta be Samsung?

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I used to have a Samsung Galaxy S6, I rooted it so I could remove the facebook app… turned out they built a custom circuit in a little chip that permanently breaks NFC if you rooted it. Ridiculous.

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I rooted it so I could remove the facebook app

Why would you even bother doing this instead of simply permanently disabling it using the built in features?

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2 points

Yep, I hate it so much

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You can adb disable them. Not the same as a full removal, if you wipe/reset the phone they come back, but for most purposes they’re effectively gone. Do a backup first, if you remove one too many or the wrong one, and other apps might start crashing.

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just…disable it after deleting updates!

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Apps you can’t delete? Gotta be Samsung?

Pixels have about 25-30 Google apps that you can’t delete.

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You can disable alerts on a per app basis

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I’ve done that before but after updates it seems to reset for some reason? Having to do it over and over is frustrating, unless I’m missing something which is not outside the realm of possibility

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I have a oneplus. Zero bloatware. The only downside is that the pictures are not as pretty as apple, that’s about it.

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3 points

Had a OnePlus for quite a while, battery was pretty bad and heated up like crazy.

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1 point

Sounds like a defective battery. It happens. Mine works fine.

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oneplus has its own sort of problems
I’ve heard ram management sucks on oneplus 11 with 12 GB ram because they keep killing apps in background to preserve battery(even after using the phone for weeks so it should’ve adapted)

you should give grapheneos on pixel a try I’m using it on pixel 7 and all the apps that I use work(mostly, only bank apps have problems, check this user contributed list for verified bank apps https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

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OnePlus used to be good and reasonably priced, now it’s just another also-ran at the same price point as everything else.

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6 points

Look into a Nothing Phone as well as you look.

I’m biased but I like my Pixel 7 Pro quite a bit, though the Pixel 7 is also good.

Doesn’t really matter if it’s a Google phone or not though: They track you the exact same unless you fully rip out all Google Services, which also means ripping out all banking apps and the Play store.

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Yeah, that’s a good point. I feel like in terms of tracking you have to unplug completely to be successful. No Square card readers, no social media, no Google anything, not to mention having to vet every service you use which doesn’t feel like it would be worth it.

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I’ve been using oneplus phones for years and theyre awesome but I’m not running the oxygenOS that it comes with, I’m running lineageOS or other AOSP type of roms.

Haven’t messed with the stock oxygen (I think it’s called ColorOS now?) in a while, but maybe will check it out. Far as I knew it didn’t really come with any bloat ware?

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Samsung and major carriers are shooting android in the foot with the bloatware. There are less and less viable android models that aren’t half filled with carrier or manufacturer specific apps that can’t be deleted. The pixel might be a tool of the Google devil but at least it provides the illustration of customization. iPhones are still Iphones. People they phone is pretty much the same butvthe hardware gets slightly better. Combine all that with messaging on Iphones essentially excluding android and ut becomes though to stick with anything but a Pixel or iphone. If I didn’t have lots of Google stuff setup for work I might reconsider iphones, but the pixel really has made my life easier via Google big brother. If work used apple big brother I would switch.

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At this point google is pretty much the only company providing an Android experience that isn’t shit

Anyone I’ve met that hasn’t liked it has used a Samsung. They try so hard to be apple but they don’t understand the parts that work and just create an overall bloated and shitty experience

Doesn’t help that they have overpriced everything

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At this point google is pretty much the only company providing an Android experience that isn’t shit

They try so hard to be apple but they don’t understand the parts that work and just create an overall bloated and shitty experience

These 2 sentences are the complete opposites of each other. Google are the ones trying to be apple, removing customisation and dumbing everything down. Samsung are the ones that are providing the android experience that most people want, which is why they outsell Google 100 to 1 or more.

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Yeah to be fair I’ve always had a Samsung, either flagship or midrange and never had an issue.

Samsung has gone way overboard with their pricing for flagships recently but their midranges are pretty decent on that score and I guess I just go with them because I’m happy with what I’m getting now. The A52s is what I have now, upgraded from an S10+ which had pretty much the same specs.

In terms of bloatware, I just disable it or uninstall it, same as I do with any software which comes on a work phone or home PC that I don’t use. Is this a big deal?

As for pixels - it’s great that they get regular updates. But they’re also expensive. They seem to look nice. Generally speaking though I agree they are the attempt to do an iPhone version of Android which probably only really matters in the US market

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Fairphone provides stock Android.

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I use a pixel and I have a hard time justifying a different phone.

Maybe things have changed but the last Samsung I had was an S7 and I didn’t like it. It suffered from bloat and didn’t last all that long. Battery issues and the screen started to lose sensitivity.

I’ve used iphones and they aren’t bad, but I really dislike apple’s app store and effort to control everything on my phone. Also everytime a new phone came out my old phone became next to unusable for a month.

I got a pixel 3 and loved it, now I have a pixel 6 and don’t see changing my phone any time soon or going to a non-pixel phone. They last a long time, they work well with everything and the camera is excellent.

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I have a hard time justifying a different phone

A pixel doesn’t have SD card slot or 3.5 mm jack. My Xperia 1V has both. There. Justified.

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I mean most consumers don’t care about those 🤷‍♀️

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most consumers have shit taste 🤷‍♀️

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1 point

Your phone doesn’t have an adaptive refresh rate screen, a good auto camera, etc etc. Swings and roundabouts.

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I’m looking to switch from Samsung to a non-Google phone, It’s too bad no networks seem to carry the Xperia in Canada. Really don’t want to shell out $2000 up front for a phone.

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You know I used to be with you on the SD card slot thing because phones used to have barely any internal storage. But now we’re seeing phones with hundreds of GB of onboard storage and having an SD card expansion on top of that feels wholly unnecessary.

I’m with you on the 3.5mm jack tho.

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While I understand the appeal, those are 2 features that I don’t need. Having the option would be nice though.

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I think more people should have this kind of view, and less of an all or nothing approach.

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Yeah I would never buy a non-Pixel phone now.

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The maddening thing is how much effort Samsung wastes duplicating basic gapps. Their contacts manager, calendar, etc has no real advantages over the Google ones. Just focus on the hardware and overall experience? Stop wasting time reinventing the wheel. Same with their app store. I’ve had an S20 for the last 4 years. Used Samsung since the S2 which I still have. And am looking at a pixel to replace it since my security updates are running out.

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The maddening thing is how much effort Samsung wastes duplicating basic gapps. Their contacts manager, calendar, etc has no real advantages over the Google ones.

They do have advantages over the google ones though. One big advantage is that “they’re not google ones”.

Stop wasting time reinventing the wheel. Same with their app store.

A google monopoly should be the last thing anyone wants. You should be wishing more developers would put their apps on the Samsung Store along with any other stores.

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Still using an S7E to this day as the battery seems basically indestructable…

The one single weak spot? I actually had to replace the glue.

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They’re right at the top in the battery department, there’s still a little bloat but you can disable things. Maybe 5 garbage games and FB

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Can you explain what you mean by bloat with the s7? I have that and like my phone, just wondering why others don’t.

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I don’t know what OP is talking about, by the time the S7 came around the bloat was already heavily reduced, I’m on an S10E still and think it’s one of the best phones ever, apart from the lackluster battery maybe. But current day Samsung Android I don’t consider bloated.

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Maybe I had an S6, but I remember a bunch of apps I couldn’t get rid of, Facebook being a big offender. I didn’t save a list of what I disliked, but it was enough for me to go back to the iPhone for a bit.

This is all personal opinion though, I like my current phone, I like it enough to stick with them unless things change drastically. Maybe part of the issue is that I upgrade my phone every 3-5 years.

Also this might be a newer phone thing not a pixel thing, but it seems to be way more water resistant. I accidentally put my pixel 3 in the washing machine for a full cycle and it worked fine afterwards.

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I remember having an S6 and it come with so many apps preinstalled that you can’t uninstall. There’s the default Google/android apps which is fine because those are the basics. Then Samsung puts a bunch of their own apps on there that basically duplicates a bunch of these and can’t be uninstalled, and then there’s other bloat apps like Facebook, maybe candy crush or some shit, maybe Netflix, that all can’t be uninstalled. The worst offender is Facebook because it was on almost any other phone not running stock android but supposedly had deeper privileges as a “system” app

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There’s the default Google/android apps which is fine because those are the basics.

And this is the problem, and it’s absurd that google haven’t been stopped from doing this by any anti-competition regulators. Samsung don’t want google apps on their phones, they have to have them. Samsung make their own, and they’re often better than googles and are far more integrated into the OS.

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I’ve used https://shop.fairphone.com/ for a while now, a bit less slick and more expensive, but I’m very satisfied. I already degoogled completely, can’t have a Google phone now :D

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What does Fairphone offer for the car infortainment interface, or are you stuck without one?

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I mean, Fairphone runs Android. So the same Android Auto that a Google Pixel would have

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I don’t own a car, no idea.

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Which OS do you run on it?

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Maybe things have changed but the last Samsung I had was an S7

An S7 may as well have been a Symbian phone compared to the OS Samsung phones now run.

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