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Yes, chaning the voice of an actor can absolutly make a movie terrible. See: Most German dubs.

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Historical fun fact:

Back in Ye Olde Days, movies didn’t have sound. But it had some amazing moviestars, since it takes a LOT of skill to make a convincing character with no sound.

But then, they invented “Talkies” (as in, movies where people talk). And suddenly, people like Pola Negri, a polish actress with a VERY heavy accent had some major issues. Same for Karl Dane, who had (humorously) a heavy Danish accent. They both went from top-of-the-line, A-list actors to basically nobody. Karl Dane ended up comitting suicide over it.

Other actors, like Charlie Chaplin, just really didn’t do many Talkies, except for a few VERY famous ones, his speach in the Great Dictator is famous for a reason.

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They made a whole musical about this called “Singin’ in the Rain”

As far as my opinion goes. “I can’t stan ‘em”

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I don’t think a movie can be “really bad” only because of a voicing, so it also can’t be elevated to good with just a voice. There are too many other factors into what makes - or for me goes into - a good or bad or really bad movie. Even when a voicing can ruin a good or very good movie.

They do have significant influence, though. Germany has a very strong dubbing industry, but I still prefer EN original voicing. And for JP anime, I much prefer original JP voicing. It makes a big difference.

I can’t say I have seen and heard many in both forms, but only very rarely do I like/find equally good or prefer the dub. There are good ones. But in the wide industry, I find them largely sub-par.

Maybe there’s more difference between different languages and societies compared to what you were asking. But I think they go into the same theme/aspect.

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Not sure if Bad->Good is possible, but the other way around certainly is.

Imagine BBC nature documentaries being voiced by Gilbert Gottfried instead of David Attenborough.

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I would watch the hell out of that haha. American Dad has a joke about the audio book of Plato’s Republic read by Gilbert Gottfried.

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Hard agree. Somehow this sounds amazing.

EDIT: I think I should start a GoFundMe to make this happen.

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I mean imagine the documentary initially with Gottfried and then swap in Attenborough… Bad to good right? I think there’s a point here about good films being easy to ruin in many different ways, while bad films are probably already ruined in several ways so fixing one thing like a voice is unlikely to save it.

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I agree. It’s rarely going to turn something abjectly terrible into a masterpiece, but it’s much easier for it to ruin something. Watch the clips of Darth Vader with David Prowse’s voice and ask yourself if that version of Star Wars would have been as iconic.

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