Hi Selfhosted,
I am looking for the best solution to replace spotify for at home and out of the house music.
I already have a large music library and run moOde for multiroom audio and use spotify connect to cast to it.
Is my best option to set up an MPD server and wireguard vpn to use it on the go? Are there other options? What would you recommend?
Plex w/ plexamp Jellyfin w/finamp
Thats what I would go with but theres tons of options here as well
https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#media-streaming---audio-streaming
I agree. The client fills the gaps of the server side recommendations and filters, but the lack of desktop equivalent is why I don’t use it full time
I have a jellyfin server running already so I will give that a go. Thanks
There are some great designs ready for redesign of Finamp to make it much more modern, but development is fairly slow with limited resources. I think it’s currently in closed testing though.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| DNS | Domain Name Service/System |
| NAS | Network-Attached Storage |
| Plex | Brand of media server package |
| VPN | Virtual Private Network |
4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 4 acronyms.
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My entire media library is sitting on a NAS, fed to me through a Plex instance in docker. Works great
Plexamp is pretty great. Plex was functional when it came to music but plexamp’s features and ui really makes it feel like my own spotify
I tried it very briefly, when it still brand new, because the regular client didn’t support replaygain. Found the UI/UX quite complicated, because of the super minified controls. Has anything changed in terms of that?
Plexamp was launched twice, first as a Plex Labs desktop-only app, then completely overhauled as a cross-platform app with 'droid and iOS releases.
It has changed a lot since, the UX is much smoother now, with tons of new settings + features implemented. There’s no other selfhosted solution that comes close IMO
People will recommend Navidrome- but if you’re like me then your music collection is organized by folders and not metadata. Navidrome does not and will never (developer said as much) support folder-based browsing.
I recommend using Gonic https://github.com/sentriz/gonic and then a compatible Subsonic client. Gonic has been the simplest and smoothest out-of-house music streaming experience for me.
I’ve not heard of gonic before. Why choose it over, say, Airsonic or one of the other Subsonic forks?
It’s “just” as server, doesn’t rely on Java and has seen a release this decade.
Yeah. Navidrome fucks up your experience. If your id tags are not 100℅ that is.
Folder based music server is the way to go.
Gonic is really too bareboned and really is for low power devices. The better alternative would be Polaris which has a better web interface.
If you have modern hardware (celeron +), Airsonic is the best IMO.
I think you’re on the right track with Wireguard.
I’m also running Jellyfin, but mostly Navidrome for music. I’ve been pretty satisfied with the latter.
Consuming music outside the house has been a significant issue. I mostly tried to go the offline route: download some music to play while you’re out of the house … and on Android the experience has been overall very poor. My least worst experience was with Substreamer as a client, but still not anywhere near good.
Where I’m at today is with always-on VPN through Wireguard and the experience is significantly better than any other solution I’ve tried before.
It’s been years I haven’t played with mpd, so I can’t comment on that.
Navidrome with Substreamer on mobile for auto-generated recommendations based on already played music works great for me.
+1 for navidrome.
I’m also using that and have it exposed to the web using a cloudflare tunnel. What I didn’t like in the beginning but really appreciate now is that the service itself doesn’t have a lot of permissions and cannot delete files or change their metadata. I’m hosting it in a docker container and everything except the config file is mounted read-only.
I’m not sure how relevant that is but it gives me more peace of mind exposing it publicly.
Thay sounds potentially better than having to vpn in to use it.
How are you liking navidrome?
Not OP, but I also use Navidrome, hosted as a docker container on Synology NAS with reverse proxy for streaming outside the house. Have found the Symfonium app (paid) to be a great replacement for Spotify.
Performance is good and streaming works well. Not a fan of the webinterface personally but there are client programs available for all platforms since navidrome exposes the subsonic api.
Personally I use sonix on windows and linux as well as symfonium (paid but really great app) on android.
The only thing I am missing from it is better user management so that I can restrict specific users from accessing parts of my library.
Regarding access from outside my network I specifically wanted to avoid needing to be connected to a VPN so that’s why I use a cloudflare tunnel. Since my upload rate is not very good I have a Pi-Hole DNS server at home so that queries to my domain while in the home network don’t need to leave my network.
