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Idk why everyone acts like this would be some sort of travesty. If higher seating capacity through innovative cabine layouts bring down cost and carbon emissions per passenger, I’m all for it. I’m not flying for the experience but to get to my destination. If you all care so much about spacious seating, just book business class.

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2 points

Deep vein thrombosis and lack of efficient evacuation routes say hello

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6 points

This looks like a good way to eliminate all my carbon emissions from flying because there’s no way I’ll get on a plane like this.

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I’m not even particularly claustrophobic, and I am also very aware that this is unlikely to ever pass FAA inspection, and yet I still inevitably start breathing heavier every time I see this photo. It’s just so terrifying.

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21 points

You don’t design for the flight; you design for the evacuation. We learned that the hard way decades ago. This looks like it forgot all those lessons paid for by people’s lives.

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Evacuate Deez nutz

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Adding onto this, the cabin design in OP’s post looks like it would 100% break your legs if the plane were to ever crash. It would absolutely suck to be in a plane crash and have your legs broken.

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Then just add additional emergency exits to the plane. Except for a higher total number of passengers I don’t see how this layout would significantly slow down evacuation otherwise. Though I’m by no means an expert.

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0 points

Clearly

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People’s legs being in that position would negate what is considered a safe evacuation. Modern regulations stipulate that you have 90 seconds to get everyone off the plane safely with 50% of the emergency exits blocked. That’s why you’re required to be seated completely upright with your feet on the floor during takeoff and landing. So you can stand up immediately if anything goes wrong and you need to evacuate.

This accident is one of the reasons why that rule exists. We forget these things:

“It was then, just 90 seconds after the plane came to a stop, that the entire passenger cabin exploded in flame. An unstoppable wall of fire swept forward from the back of the plane, consuming everything in its path, painting every window in brilliant orange. Firefighters tried to fight it, but there was nothing they could do. Captain Cameron, who jumped from the window just seconds before the explosion, would be the last to leave the plane alive.”

https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/a-song-of-smoke-and-fire-the-tragedy-of-air-canada-flight-797-7ea7923e76d8

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One word: Claustrophobia

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No, wait. This is actually not a bad idea.

Look closely. First of all there’s a rigid barrier between the lower and upper seat. That means that fart gasses won’t get through, unlike current seats where farts just spread everywhere around a person, so only the upper seats will be affected.

Second, the lady has her feet up, meaning she has enough leg room to do so. This is a big advantage because you can kick your feet up on your underseat baggage while you sleep or stretch your legs. It’s much better than the current layout where you can barely move at all.

No offense, but I think anyone with a negative opinion of this layout is wrong.

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An issue with this is getting up mid flight

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How so? You just push the seat back and get out, it’ll be about as much of an issue as a normal (very cramped) seat.

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2 points

I was thinking for the window seat

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The lady isn’t choosing to “have her feet up,” she is essentially sitting on the floor and forced into the L shape by the rigid structure around her. There’s still incredibly little range of motion just like a regular seat, except now with the added danger of a much more difficult emergency evacuation, especially for people with limited mobility.

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I don’t think so. But it’s hard to tell from this perspective.

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If only there were ways to find out.

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She actually is not.

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And for people with blood clots! Locking your knees prevents blood flow and can get those clots forming faster.

Since locking your knees while standing makes you pass out, I wonder if locking your knees while seated also makes you pass out.

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Also, I’m imagining that there isn’t a wall right in front of her face, as this angle suggests. But rather, there is a bit of a cavity tucked up under the top seat. Oh, yeah… found an image. It does still look a little claustrophobic in there.

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Hitting that board in a crash is probably going to be worse than hitting the back of a single chair.

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Yea that dude looks thin and average height and uncomfortable. I’m 230 6ft with some muscle. I’m gonna feel like a sardine.

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7 points

Well, don’t you already?

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You can get one of the top seats, and I’ll slither down into the bottom seats.

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3 points

Oh cool! It’s actually not so bad. I wouldn’t mind.

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I suspect the angle might make the space look smaller too, it’s possible that the wall actually extends a bit out without being solid inside

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She’s also fully reclined her seat. So maybe if her seat was upright it would be easier for people to get in and out.

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9 points

Claustrophobia. It’s an absolutely fucking not from me, dawg

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This is marketing meaning if this ever actually came to market (and it won’t) they would immediately begin adjusting it to reclaim even more room causing cramping with each new redesign. People are very easily conditioned so years after this became a thing and multiple redesigns later people would only just be beginning to realize it has already happened and even then nothing would change because the general public won’t do anything while a select few will complain and make no impact.

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My biggest problem with the space is that if I had to sit with my legs out like that, I’d eventually cramp up and inevitably bang my knees on the chair above.

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Honestly, you hook me up with an HMD, mouse, and keyboard and i would be down for it.

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15 points

We’re getting dangerously close to how they packed the slaves in the cargo holds of ships for transport across the ocean.

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Um… no? A voluntary half-day voyage in comfortable seats is not even nearly comparable to the inhuman horrors experienced on slave ships. There is absolutely nothing dangerous about this.

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Um… no? A voluntary half-day voyage in comfortable seats is not even nearly comparable to the inhuman horrors experienced on slave ships.

Way to overthink it, damn. That was meant as a comedic anecdote, not as a literal comparison.

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Im a huge fan of the 5th element strat. Slide me into a pod and render me unconcious with gas. It solves so many problems - entertaing self in flight, listening to the bodily functions of strangers, crying babies. Airlines would save millions on meals not served and stewards not serving them. It even solves security concerns, terrorists cant hijack a plane when they are unconcious and locked in a pod.

And if the worst happens, and the plane has a case of engine-rich-exhaust and is hurtling down into the freezing southern ocean, I really dont wanna know about it. Just let Posiden take me in my sleep.

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The whole notion defeats the point. The extra passengers / profit will be negated by the larger fuselage and drag.

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The 787 and 380 would like a word. Fuckin’ Dreamliner is already wider than most houses, with more headroom.

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Now make them both bigger to allow for double stacking.

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This was designed for a concept aircraft but the creator says it can be modified to fit into a modern widebody.

Not that it matters. Shit like this will never see the light of day owing to egress issues.

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