Sowing confusion to deflect blame is Tel Aviv’s usual propaganda strategy.

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Good for you, condemning all sides from your ivory tower so you can maintain moral purity.

So! What do you think Hamas should have done? Vote? Start a petition? Post about it on X?

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Are you trying to suggest that Hamas were some how justified

I can’t speak for the person you were responding to… but yes - Hamas (and every other organisation Palestinians choose to support) has every goddamn right to fight Israel in whatever way that works. And no… I am in no way suggesting that - I’m stating it outright.

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Not having an answer doesn’t mean you can’t condemn both sides in this.

It actually does, because it means you’re just playing pretend instead of grappling with the world as it actually exists.

So shut up 😘

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And how do they force Israel to negotiate?

Israel won’t negotiate with peaceful protestors and won’t negotiate with hostage takers and won’t negotiate with passive captives. Just an idea, but maybe Israel is the one at fault for there being no negotiations.

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Riiight… let’s justify an actual and ongoing genocide by hiding behind an alleged one that doesn’t exist.

Why does this sound so familiar? Oh, right… it’s the exact same “reverse genocide” trope the Apartheid-regime hid behind so long.

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Firstly, Palestinian representatives including Hamas have tried to come to the negotiating table, ever since the beginning. The response from Israel is bombing runs, artillery fire, and bad faith claims that Hamas will not negotiate.

Secondly, Palestinians do not want to exterminate anyone, they simply want to be free. The extermination/genocide thing is common myth presented by settlers who can’t imagine anything but genocide, as it’s how their own society has been built, and they project this on to all other societies.

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The best way I’ve seen it put was that “Israel’s response goes beyond the scope of defense”

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“Israel’s response goes beyond the scope of defense”

Yeah… since 1949.

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Here’s an incident Israeli feds almost certainly faked. And you’re like. Both sides bad.

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Wouldn’t be surprised if Israel did it and covered it up. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Palestinians accidentally blew it up or did it on purpose. No way of knowing. Everyone involved is gonna lie.

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I’m not entirely discounting the possibility that it was a Hamas rocket accident, but claiming that an Israeli attack on Gaza was actually a hamas misfire is SOP for the IDF. The idea that hamas would do this intentionally is absurd though.

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Don’t know… maybe the same kind of propaganda bullshit we always hear in such conflicts.
Oh, wait. No. Because they don’t need to when Israel is indeed contradicting itself constantly and links to sources and screenshots of quickly deleted official social media post are entirely sufficient without needing to spin the story…

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After hearing earlier in the week that Israel was demanding the evacuation of all hospitals in Northern Gaza, it was clear that this hospital was bombed as promised. Claims that Hamas did it are clearly diversionary propaganda.

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This source might not be the best but I’m following these details and I think a more reputable source will cast doubt on the legitimacy of the situation Israel and this hospital has painted. There seems, to me, a good chance this hospital bombing was faked / or the details were heavily skewed as a propaganda piece.

Reuters: What we Know about this Hospital Strike

  • Reuters said IDF fired a strike at a Palestinian hospital causing 500 deaths.

  • Comms come out where a “Hamas agent” spills the beans about details saying Hamas did it, and other Hamas agents are confused.

  • Israel has posted and asserted misinformation about this situation. They may just be lying reflexively.

  • Videos of this hospital parking lot seem to show a lot less damage than the reported ammunition (JDAM) And the size of the explosion. We see a few cars worth of damage. Some cars seem fine. There was fire in the hospital though too?

  • Nonetheless this bomb went off in Northern Gaza, where Palestinians have been ordered to evacuate. Which is logistically impossible and there’s nowhere for them to go.

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The electronic intifada, yeah that’s not going to be biased propaganda at all /s

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