83 points

“As soon as the land of any country has all become private property, the landlords, like all other men, love to reap where they never sowed, and demand a rent even for its natural produce.”

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Modern rent seeking is rooted in a feudal concept. The lord maintained an army that protected the land, and the workers paid the lord for the upkeep of the army that protected them.

Modern landlords provide absolutely nothing but exploitation of their tenants. They take rent and provide nothing anywhere near equal in value.

They are parasites on the working class. Our labor gives them profit, and they offer only what should be ours by right.

We pay to live here. It’s our home. You only rent seek, you fucking parasite.

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19 points

Not sure why you’re being so heavily downvoted, it’s true. Landlords, due to their position in society benifit from high poverty, less rent control, etc. Working class people want the exact opposite. It’s a clear and obvious dielectic contradiction

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17 points

Not sure why you’re being so heavily downvoted

Currently his post has one downvote

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-1 points

Where are you going to live if you can’t buy a house?

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4 points

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1 point

Why are we all just accepting of getting absolutely gutted by rent?

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1 point

Because we’re not ready for guillotines yet.

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👏 Don’t 👏 let 👏 that 👏 detract 👏 from 👏 the 👏 message.

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12 points

Off topic but I read it as handicap emoji . I’m a boomer and use emoji and acronyms infrequently.

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2 points

I read it that way too. Our brains tend to guess the word and fill in the blanks based off of the first and last character of a word. I’m sure the length helped in this case too lol

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1 point

Same. Handicap is a far more common word than handclap, so it was a good guess!

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-5 points

The word boomer should be cancelled

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7 points

OK, boomer

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1 point

It’s been around since 1963, good luck with that. It will fade into obscurity once the last of the boomers are gone.

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9 points

They make me think of that Stefon character from SNL.

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1 point

That’s kind of the point. It’s supposed to be attention grabbing, drawing attention to a point that is supposed to be implicitly agreed upon by everyone, except people don’t agree with it because too many people are chasing clout or wealth.

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51 points

I hate when people clap alongside every word they say. It’s so damn obnoxious and annoying, it makes me disregard whatever input they want to give.

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Leftists try not to be insufferable whilst doing/saying leftist things challenge [impossible]

– sincerily, a leftist

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12 points

I agree. It’s trashy as fuck.

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2 points

Me 👏 too 👏

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12 points

100% with you. It’s like writing “Period” at the end of what you said, as if that makes it more true. And, ironically, it’s almost always some take that requires ignoring all nuance.

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3 points

It isn’t ironic at all. Ignoring nuance is the whole point. Saying “Period.” at the end of a statement emphasizes that the statement is complete, and that you will not entertain any qualifying subclauses being appended to it. It’s explicitly rejecting nuance.

Still annoying, though.

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Eh, it’s for emphasis, it’s just a style that gives a visual along with the words that indicate a specific physical movement that some people interpret in a specific way and changes how they are communicating, thus changing the message in a minute way. It’s not hurting you, if it’s enough to make you want to disregard what they are saying that seems pretty petty of you. Just because people communicate differently from you isn’t enough of a reason to disrespect them or what they have up say. Now, if they’re saying something abhorrent, that’s a different story, but you’re not an idiot, just judgemental

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It’s not hurting you

No, but it’s highly irritating and jarring. Almost even threatening, as if they want to smack you because you disagree with them. If they can’t have a calm, reasonable discussion then I don’t think it’s petty of me to not want to listen to them.

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That’s the point. It’s supposed to hammer home what should be an implicit idea that everyone should agree with, except people don’t agree with it.

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It is intended ironically. Whether or not this is a good thing, I think the lemmy audience tends to struggle with anything that is not strictly literal.

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8 points

No, it’s not being ironic. They’re using the clapping emoji the regular way.

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Really? That was your shut-it-down moment?

Not the : let’s compare ourselves to other species which have no doctors, science, hygiene, toilets, devices or ready made food as to why were such a cushy society that hoarding money really shouldn’t be a thing we do and kinda missed the point of why a society is usually formed?

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Annoying and irritating, proving my point.

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-9 points

That’s low-key racist innit?

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what race claps the most hands?and 👏 IS 👏 IT 👏 SIMPSONS 👏

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I can say for sure that they have a scene about clapping. When Lisa asked Bart “what is the sound of one hand clapping?” during a discussion of philosophy, and Bart replied, “Yo Lisa, listen up” and went psht-psht-psht with one hand by clapping the fingers against the palm.

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37 points

Okay, but other species aren’t even able to pay to exist. If a human wants them dead, they dead —unless they the property of another human being of course.

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They’re also at the mercy of nature and all it entails. And nature is fucking brutal.

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And they do pay to exist, just not money. They spend their time seeking food, expend their calories seeking more, risk their well-being to defend what they have from competitors, etc.

And that’s how we would live too without exchanging money for good and services. It’s just a resource, and no species is free from having to gather and manage resources.

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3 points

No free lunch

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You’re right, we all need to acquire resources. The thing is that by law, we don’t have the ability to use property without the owners’ permission. So unlike a butterfly or something, we can’t just do our thing, we have to give over some portion of our energy and acquired resources to other people.

Many people worked hard to start a business or buy land. But not all of them, many people’s wealth has some proportion derived from other people’s labor. It would be impossible to sort out individually whether an individual “ought” to have what they have. But to avoid reverting to the “natural” state (I’m stronger / there are more of us so I / we are going to take this) we should guarantee that all people have some minimum standard of living.

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9 points

You act as if paying to exist is a privilege. It is a requirement of being a human in our society. A requirement that functionally requires you to be exploited by those who won the birth lottery.

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It is a privilege in contrast to other species, the exact juxtaposition done by the OP. It’s like complaining that the free man has to pay for room and board while the slave doesn’t. I’ve heard exact arguments like this from slavery apologists, that slaves had it really good actually.

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How exactly are other species relevant to how we structure our society? It is true that humans are the top dog in the circle of life, but how is that relevant?

I said nothing about slavery, why are you changing the subject?

EDIT: I guess I missed the first sentence in the OP about species. I think caring about how other species do things is just a red herring to draw attention.

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Also, you could easily not have to pay to exist. You’d just be living a hard hard life out in the sticks or be taken care of in jail with the tradeoff of a lack of freedom.

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1 point

People in prison are hardly taken care of. Read up on healthcare in prisons, for example.

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1 point

Taken care of was not the right phrase, only in the sense that you’ll keep existing for no money. Quality of life for a free existence is not going to be pretty any way you slice it.

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Yeah. This is a terrible argument. Sounds great to ubi supporters.

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All I’m reading from the OP is “gimme gimme gimme”

There are good arguments in favor of UBI but this is just whiny.

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5 points

The argument is that a person can be willing and able to work, but because resources were distributed unevenly before we were all born, it’s possible to be homeless and hungry. Or more likely, scraping by with a job while a small percentage of wealthy people take a cut of everything you do and you have to be careful not to displease them.

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Forgot I had this

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