415 points

Dr. Cox was right: “I’m fairly sure if they took porn off the internet, there’d only be one website left, and it’d be called ‘Bring Back the Porn.'”

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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Tumblr the Depraved?

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I hate how hard this made me laugh

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I still miss og tumblr and my little porn account i had going there.

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41 points

Does oglaf count as porn?
Asking for a friend.

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Scared to click, someone pls provide context

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These are comics, often with a nsfw gag, it’s safe to click on, it’s very mild.

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I had totally forgotten oglaf existed, thanks for the reminder!

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Oh, she’s trying!

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Bro’s name is Dr. Cocks

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Blocking porn has got to be the most “why even bother” thing

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179 points

Political theater. “Won’t somebody think of the children?” is an easy win for politicians.

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110 points

Plus an excuse to collect more data.

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47 points

Yeah the point is just to soften the populace to the idea. Our fucking PM covered for pedophile priests in a Catholic school 30 years ago, he doesn’t give any fuck about kids.

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Except it’s fucking awful to wait for buffering over Tor or a VPN

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78 points

If you are paying for a VPN and you have buffering problems, change to another VPN, that one is shit.

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Video over Tor is pretty awful, simply due to the way Tor works; Bandwidth is inherently limited, because it’s shared by everyone using the network. Same reason you should avoid torrenting over Tor.

But if your video is buffering over a VPN, you need to find a new VPN provider. Mine maxes out my gigabit connection.

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3 points

Why use Tor? It’s been compromised for years now. Just use I2P. You can torrent with that too.

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3 points

Could be worse. Could be you’re in the early 90s with only a 56k modem.

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My VPN’s perfectly fine. To be fair, it’s not a free plan of a VPN that’s heavily throttled, but I can even play multiplayer FPS games with only a few milliseconds of additional delay, and my overall max upload and download speed is almost exactly identical to when I have my VPN off.

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86 points

It’s not about blocking porn.

It’s always about control. Conservatives want to control how you consume sexual content.

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64 points

It’s not about that either. It’s about connecting photo ID to browsing profiles and deanonymising the internet.

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20 points

¿Por que los dos?

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VPN companies and data brokers have a financial incentive to lobby for intrusive age-verification and restrictions, and prudish politicians are conveniently present in every political system. The porn lobby is powerful, but it seems they’ve been losing this battle recently. Or maybe they’re cutting deals with the data brokers, who knows.

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Politically speaking, it’s easy money. You pander to the conservatives with blocking propositions, get votes.

*Who is going to champion the flip side?!"

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15 points

Me. Porn is fine. Teach your children how to handle it. Teach them that it’s not realistic and some of it is straight-up dangerous. Put a filter on your internet if you’re too scared to talk to your kids about uncomfortable topics.

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Man it’s porn, not guns. Children should not be near it!

Oh wait this is France

Anyway, I agree with you. We’re talking about regular ol garden variety porn. Everyone will probably see it at some point. Parents can limit what their kids see until the kids become smart enough to bypass filters. At which point they can probably handle seeing pennis n vagene.

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4 points

Like Reddit or YouTube with proper keywords didn’t exist

Been there, done that

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Reminds me of when my buddies discovered our friend’s YouTube account… He only had one public playlist, and it was 100% full of softcore porn. Nothing else. It was all softcore porn. We gave him a pretty good ribbing for that one, and still make a point of reminding him that better porn sites exist every time it comes up.

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Always hide your playlists and subscriptions haha

But softcore has the benefit to help you retain normal libido and to not be dependent of more hardcore stuff

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We gave him a pretty good ribbing for that one,

I guess you could say he got ribbed for his pleasure.

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I feel like reddit and YouTube are completely different leagues when it comes to porn… Porn is the only reason I haven’t deleted my last reddit account. YT doesn’t even really have real porn…

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YT doesn’t even really have real porn

Indeed, but there’s still things to find if you’re a young scared kiddo, and I’d say it’s pretty soft so it’s okay

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Meanwhile in Australia, they just passed a bill requiring social media to verify the age of their users to make sure they’re over 16

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6 points

Ouch

What a great way to prevent minors from living their lives

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247 points

I have to admit, of all the nations on earth, I never expected this sort of puritanical theatrical authoritarianism out of the french.

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They’ve been trying to block it for many years now.

France has been going downhill for quite some time. Many proposals for chat control and tracking… even recently, we got a law proposal that aimed at banning E2EE 😵

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53 points

Damn, the whole world really is going authoritarian.

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When it’s not about protecting kids, it’s about fighting drugs

They always have a “good” reason to remove our freedom, because apparently security seems much more important, and it seems like it’s the only way to do it. Lol.

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10 points

Authoritarians have embraced internet culture somehow.

I’m curious how they got Gen Z so curtailed.

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6 points

Politicians are always trying to ban encryption in every country. I remember it happening constantly in the 90s. And it happens because politicians don’t understand that you can’t ban math

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Wait 'til they do it. You’re underestimating them.

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81 points

They should actually take to the streets (again). Not joking. What is this nanny-state BS?

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To clarify, the french didn’t ban pornhub, it’s the company behind pornhub who decided to deny it’s access in France to protest a law proposal that is currently getting examined in parliament

Ps : The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

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Ps : The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

This is how young boys learn to computer. It won’t do shit to stop anything. It’s a waste of time.

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Well – this might be more succesful in boostering the IT skills of France’s next generation than any curriculum reform.

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4 points

How do you know it’s just boys? Seems an odd assumption, considering the nature of omission of information with this.

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The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

Wait aren’t they proposing the same thing in the US as well? It’s a fairly standard thing of right-wing governments to just demand the impossible with no understanding about it could possibly be achieved.

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They understand just how hard it would be to comply. And that’s the point. Make it hard enough to meet the requirements to not make worth a business’ while to comply. And the politicians can say “We didn’t ban PornHub. They blocked you from access.”

It’s a common tool both the left and right use to control behaviors. Governments around the world do this all the time.

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For now it’s not nation wide, it’s just up to states if they want to implement an age verification law like that. They want to make it so that in order to prove your identity/age you need to do something like upload a copy of your ID/Drivers License that will be linked with your “research” accounts.

They say it’s to “save the children” and shit like that but the end goal really is to basically shame people who enjoy researching things because Jesus says it’s bad.

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Right, because we’ve never checked ID for things like tobacco and alcohol before?

These porn companies should work on efficient cost effective ways to verify adults instead of using politics and social media to increase profits. I’m sure you are aware profit is higher if children are allowed on their websites.

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The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users

Isn’t that already the case on a lot of the internet?

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I think this law requires you to upload a photo of your ID and says that it’s the website’s fault if underage people use it and they face a hefty fine. It’s a lot more than the standard “click to pinky promise that you’re definitely 18” because PornHub already has that.

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I know right? Aren’t there nude beaches in the south of France where people will fuck in broad daylight with others watching?

French citizens please confirm (for uh, science, and not vacation planning)!

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Yes, there are. But you misunderstood the news: France didn’t block pornhub, pornhub blocked France as a protest against a new law.

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Age verification in a porn database is odd to me, from a privacy point of view AND a massive undertaking for the porn company. And then there’s the puritan culture of wanting to block teenagers from watching porn? Seems a very anti-French thing to me, but I’m also pretty ignorant of actual French culture. I assumed French culture would be like, once you have the urges, you’ll go seeking, and if you need to look at the internet in the safety of your own bedroom, is better than unexpected pregnancies to satisfy urges.

What’s the deal with all of this, anyway? What are the arguments here?

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Passings laws we don’t like?

NO PORN FOR YOU!!!

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Democracy and general Egalitarianism is so 2008. Authoritarianism is what’s hot now.

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11 points

I can’t wait for a severe overcorrection

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Democracy and general Egalitarianism is so 2008

Bold of you to assume it ever was!

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The percentages of respondents in surveys on infidelity answering “not a moral issue” from France are a bit of a cultural difference (from Australian perspective, anyway)

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I’m shocked that this many people feel the need to disobey a rule that is only there to help the children. Next step must be to ban VPNs altogether, and enforcing all Internet users to be identified with their real identity (/s obviously).

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Jokes on them I just have an incredibly high volume of DNS traffic

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That’ll be really slow.

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Can confirm, used DNS proxying to bypass cruise ship WiFi paywall once. It worked, but god damn did it send me into dialup flashback lmao

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It really isn’t that slow, last time I tried to homebrew a working DNS tunnel it maxed my 100mbps card. I never needed the extra speed so I didn’t try to see how fast it could be on a 1gbps card

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Wait, this can’t just be another useless DNS blocking, or is it?

Edit: Didn’t get the joke first lol

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It’s not. I use next and it’s blocked.

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I was making a joke about running wireguard over UDP/53

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The VPNs will be harder to ban. Not just from a technical standpoint, but politically as well. Big businesses will be absolutely opposed to VPN bans.

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There will be a lot of businesses who feel the (justified) need to hide the entrypoint to their infrastructure behind a VPN.

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I feel they could easily ban VPN companies (maybe?), which is what 99.9% of people that want to browse from a different location use.

This won’t affect companies at all as they would be using their own VPN.

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VPN becomes VPS and life goes on.

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The only way the sovereign nation of France can ban VPN companies not based in France is to block the IP address of every single entry point of every single VPN company and keep doing so as they add new entry points (I bet the response on the VPN company side would be to start having some kind of dynamic VPN server thing).

And then, as somebody else already pointed out, any technically inclined person can just rent a VPS anywhere in the World and fire up their own VPN server on it.

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21 points

Teacher, leave the kids alone!

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All and all its just a-nother dick in the porn.

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15 points

if the VPN ban doesn’t work then the only reasonable course of action would be to ban the internet entirely. it’s the only way the children can be truly safe.

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4 points

Back to the Minitel !

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2 points

Honestly and truly, I don’t think humanity is ready for the internet.

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Don’t give them ideas. If they block no-log VPNs I’m going to become a real threat 👀

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Fun fact: they already tried. In the same law where they tried to ban E2EE a few months ago. It went about as well as you’d expect.

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Does the rule in question even apply to end users? All I had heard of it was that it put some kind of requirement on the website itself to identify people, which a person seeking out a noncompliant or foreign website presumably wouldn’t be the one violating?

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How about you just parent your children? But it’s not about the children, that’s just always the convenient excuse

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