Blows my mind that anyone still uses WinRAR when 7zip exists.
What should blow your mind is that it’s 2023 and you still need a separate program to extract compressed files on windows. 😂 Good thing they’re adding native support for it in windows 11. FINALLY.
Windows has had native unzip support since Microsoft Plus! 98 added it to Windows 98 in 1998.
For my personal use, Linux has every single thing I need right out of the box. That’s why it’s my main OS.
Not like zip is supported and Windows added (finally tbf) support for other archives.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/23/23734625/microsoft-windows-11-rar-support-native
WinRAR was good in ancient times when it was the only zip program available. Even in the Windows XP era there were better things to use if you knew about them.
Winrar in ancient times? Lol. People have been arching for a long time before that. Unix, amiga, apple, pc… that is a funny sentence.
Don’t remember PKARK, ARC, and PKWARE? Zip became popular after the battle with SEA.
I believe Winrar became popular because it was easier to use with multi volume archives. Which conveniently worked well with parity files, which all worked great for distributing on usenet.
Well it would blow your mind to know that many people just use whatever they know that does the job
FUCK WINRAR!
it’s so stupid and amazing this recent celebration of people that are proud to have paid for it.
It was never a good solution really…
It just worked for what it was for a time… Because it was better than WinZip or pkzip.
7-zip has been amazing for years…
Better OS support would be cool too but it’s so unnecessary thanks to 7zip.
FUCK WINRAR!
People on Lemmy sometimes get really angry at the dumbest things.
You don’t like Winrar, that’s your right, chill dude.
WinRAR was great for the time and their policies on paying for the program were extremely generous. Time just overtook it.
It’s essentially just shareware.
More specifically, it’s nagware which wasn’t particularly uncommon for the time WinRAR was introduced so I don’t know that it’s particularly generous really when one considers all the other nagware that came out in the late 90s.
It’s just one of many different licensing strategies.
In this case it seems to have paid off for the developer as it appears to have resulted in a great deal of fondness and goodwill among a certain portion of the user base.
It was never great.
Their “generous” pay if you want to remove this obnoxious message prompt aside…
It was temporarily useful until better alternatives arose… Which took virtually no time.
7z recently also had an exploit. It’s not magically safer.
RAR compresses significantly faster than 7z (in relation to the compression ratio of course).
RAR has recovery records, 7z doesn’t. RAR4 even had cryptographic signatures included. But RAR5 dropped that.
7z is nice, but it’s not objectively better than RAR on every account.
It just worked for what it was for a time… Because it was better than WinZip or pkzip.
Yes this is why it is loved as a piece of software history.
I get you probably were a twinkle in your dad’s eye in those days, but that doesn’t mean people who were alive then should care less.
Dude… I’m 50 years old and have worked in the technology industry since 1997.
Which should be pretty obvious considering I mentioned fucking pkzip which was a DOS utility.
Give me a fucking break with the condescension.
I just feel like that people who are still opening RAR files are technically savvy enough to have moved on from WinRAR
Edit: and the people who would still use it aren’t really opening archives anymore so I don’t know who this is affecting. Maybe they have corporate contracts.
Not hate but we graduate to 7zip.
Isnt the FOSS thingie all the hype around lemmy? Feel like every discussion tends to drift towards FOSS topics (ironic, I know) and if an app with proprietary modules will be hated to hell and back.
It’s pretty old, there’s a whole meme around it
WinRAR had a great gui and it integrates much better (imho) into windows than 7zip, only thing 7zip has going for it is it’s free.
If we are talking command line, rar is free (inb4 Unix guys butt in)
If you’re on Windows (I know I know, switch to Linux) I prefer NanaZip over base 7zip
doesn’t WinRAR do certain things that 7zip doesn’t?
I can’t think of what 7zip lacks, but I know it does lack some features
Exactly!
And it’s the only thing WinRAR does that 7zip doesn’t… Besides all the things 7zip does better… Like compression… 😂
The reason WinRAR was useful to me allllllll those years ago was for one thing and one thing only: You could split an archive into chunks. So mostly I found that it was good for getting my warez in 1.44MB chunks.
Yes. That splitting files was especially useful because emails used to have attachment size limits.
Why not? I prefer it over 7-Zip because it has built-in parity both in the archive itself and as separate files. You can achieve the latter with 7-Zip using PAR, but it’s just more convenient to have it built-in for both parity creation and recovery.
I also feel like it’s consuming a lot less RAM while compressing at similar speeds and achieving similar, if not sometimes better (RAR5), results.
Just because it had a zero-day bug that has already been fixed doesn’t mean it’s bad software. I wouldn’t be surprised if zero-days came to light in other archival software. 7-Zip isn’t magically immune to this.
I don’t get why someone would prefer rar over zip and 7z.
Even tar.gz and all their flavors are more common.
Yeah, well technically .cab is more common than tar.gz but that doesn’t mean I’d start using it.
I personally use RAR because I think it’s a better format than ZIP, but I use ZIP when I have to share the archive with anyone.
7zip exists and is free.
It’ll unpack everything
Packing / unpacking: 7z, XZ, BZIP2, GZIP, TAR, ZIP and WIM Unpacking only: APFS, AR, ARJ, CAB, CHM, CPIO, CramFS, DMG, EXT, FAT, GPT, HFS, IHEX, ISO, LZH, LZMA, MBR, MSI, NSIS, NTFS, QCOW2, RAR, RPM, SquashFS, UDF, UEFI, VDI, VHD, VHDX, VMDK, XAR and Z.
Will it unpack my bags from the weekend? Cos it’s Friday now and I still can’t be bothered
I can’t find any reason why someone would still use rar in 2023. When I see anyone using it, it means to me they’re as technologically literate as my grandpa.
Fuck WinRAR. It’s for normie NPCs. 7Zip is FOSS, and everybody should be using it instead.
7zip’s Linux port (p7zip) was lagging back in functionality last I heard, and also was abandoned then, don’t know how it is now.
why do I find nothing about that on the 7zip website, but I do find stuff about p7zip?
I’d say “well .NET is cross platform” but knowing the average company on .NET it’s probably version 3.5 and running off a windows 95 server that hisses whenever someone gets too close to it.
Tbh I quite like developing .net on my Mac. I do away with VS and just use vscode and command line. It feels nice
Not feasible for the vast majority of users. It’s still not mature. Dunno when it’ll be if ever.
Wow, really shilling for Russian software man, that’s low, certainly the Russians have no insights to 7zip.
Who the hell hurts winRAR? That’s like punching Dolly Parton.
See guys, we shoulda paid for it back then. Now we’re paying for it now XD
