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They do have a plan, but it doesn’t include finding a peaceful solution and a path to long standing peace.

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Yup, the Israeli State does not give a single shit about innocent Palestinians. They’re quite happy to continue oppressing them, because when the oppressed ‘suddenly’ become radicalised and fight back it gives the Israeli State an excellent excuse to take more land and displace more Palestinians.

Israel is showing the world it’s not trying to be an apartheid state, but a genocidal one.

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Anyone who thinks Israelis differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas terrorists is dreaming. It’s one people against another. If anything the Israelis lump all Palestinians together AND the Arabs in the region.

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Well if everyone is dead then there is peace right /s

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"negative peace "

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So same as the rest of the region? There’s no party with a peaceful plan here, including Palestine.

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We all know what the endgame is.

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Please…enlighten us

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The Gaza strip ceases to exist when it’s taken by force and “settlers” move in so it becomes part of Israel. Millions of Palestinians die in refugee camps.

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Taken by force? It was taken by force 56 years ago. Since then the Palestinian population in Gaza has increased about 7-fold.

And there were already Israeli settlements there. They were dismantled in 2005 and the settlers forcibly removed by Sharon’s government.

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So, for execution of this plan they gave to sector Gaza autonomy and removed (forcefully) Jewish settlements from there. Yeah. Totally makes sense.

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Other commenters have added good answers, basically the strong feeling everywhere is this won’t stop until Hamas is utterly wiped out, and by that time Gaza will be too and it’s inhabitants either destroyed or refugeed out.

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Annihilation.

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The plan: more settlements, more oppression, more land grabs.

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FTA:

“Israel has called up a record 360,000 reservists”

Gaza has 365 square kilometers. 141 square miles.

https://www.britannica.com/summary/Gaza-Strip

That seems like an awful lot of soldiers to square meters.

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You do realize that this is likely to become a 3 front war. Lebanon in the north. And Bibi has to cowtow to his settler base in the West Bank.

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I could definitely see that, Israel has not been shy about invading Southern Lebanon in the past.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon

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And one of those fronts will effectively be with iran. You seriously don’t want to fuck with the resources they have to throw into war.

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I wonder whether Iran can actually spare an outright war. There is clearly a lot of anti-government energy flowing in Iran, and that won’t have been stamped out by their crackdown on it.

I wonder whether most everyday Iranians would support a war with Israel.

Granted, it’s not likely Iran gets directly involved - they’ll just drive their Hezbollah prop.

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I think that was a little bit different in that a) everyone (the West included!) expected Ukraine to just roll over, and b) a lot of those troops weren’t told they were actually going to war, they thought it was just a training mission… the poor bastards.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war

Israeli troops aren’t under any illusion about what they’re doing.

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