FBI says North Korea deployed thousands of IT workers to get remote jobs in US with fake IDs::North Koreans are using fake IDs and learning IT skills to sneak their way into remote American jobs, according to the FBI and Justice departments.

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North Koreans are using fake IDs and learning IT skills to sneak their way into remote American jobs, according to the FBI and Justice departments.

CEOs on Monday be like: “Okay we need everyone to return to the office full time… It’s for national security.”

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Only good argument I’ve heard so far.

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I’d show up just to prove I’m real.

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Id stay home so they think Im North Korean.

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I’ll happily pop in for a quarterly party to prove that I’m not zooming in from NK.

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Does no-one check the damn IDs, ffs? It’s a simple matter of typing some numbers into a computer.

I don’t know about the U.S. but in the UK where I’m from, “illegally hiring a non-UK citizen” would be a criminal offence for the hiring company. How are they going to tax them?

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A good chunk of the American economy is dependent on companies not checking the legal status of employees.

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I get cash jobs like manual labor / agriculture, but where are these companies depositing these paychecks?

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Contracting firms which subcontract out.

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Another good way to fuck over the legitimate workers

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From the summary posted below, it seems the US companies are outsourcing to China and Russia, and North Koreans living in those countries are getting these jobs. I’m guessing a part of whatever they send home is being taken, probably without their consent, by the NK government for weapon manufacturing.

It would be hard for a US company to verify if a document presented as a Chinese or Russian ID is actually from those countries or a forgery. You could ask for a passport, but they could always say they don’t have one.

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Holy smokes!! Part of their taxes are invested in their military industrial complex???

MADNESS!!

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Are they just talking about taxes? I was thinking the NK government might be asking the workers for some ‘voluntary’ donations. If it is just the government taxing them and part of the tax revenue going towards the military then it doesn’t seem like anything illegal is happening. Well, apart from the faking IDs part, but a bunch of poor people faking IDs to get jobs is a much much smaller issue than the NK government faking IDs to fund nukes.

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Wouldn’t the ID need to be associated with a verifiable green card? (Again, not an expert in US employment)

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Only if they worked physically in the US. these people work offshore for US companies.

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Man, Mark Zuckerberg’s gotten old.

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feels like an austin powers discarded skit… achieving world dominance by pretending to be mike from accounting who does excel like really good

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US companies should not be able to outsource labor overseas.

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According to the article, the companies didn’t know that’s what they were doing in this case. They thought they were hiring people living in the US:

Greenberg said the workers used various techniques to make it look like they were working in the US, including paying Americans to use their home Wi-Fi connections.

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