Hear about how much debt everyone in the US has all the time, curious about some of your stories!
My bad debt is 10k left on a school loan from a for profit school that is now out of business.
Only other debt is house.
So how are you all doing with debt management?
All debt is bad.
Investment mortgage debt is good if it contributes to tax deductible claims. Owner-occupied debt is good if it’s managed properly. Both are good because you own an appreciating asset.
Credit card debt is good if you don’t hit payable interest, leaving your money to work for you in other ways.
Commodity debt is good if the market swings in your favour.
Business debt is good if it results in surplus revenue generated.
Education debt is good if it’s contributing to future and higher employment gains.
Basically all debt is good if it’s managed properly and results in a net gain somewhere.
If someone offered you a loan right now at 1% interest, you could take it, put it in a savings account, and get 4% interest. For a net gain of 3% on whatever the loan amount is. That’s the most basic example of good debt.
Fuckin debt free 😎
Own my car 😎
College educated 😎
Gainfully employed 😎
Making more than the average household in my state, solo 😎
So is my gf 😎
Still cannot afford a house 😢
I’m in the exact same boat, to the letter. It’s been great watching interest rates and inflation eliminate 60% of my home buying power in the last year.
You know what’s neat?
In 2008 the economy tanked because the banks had made a habit of cough approving mortgages that they knew people couldn’t afford in the long run. Then they auctioned off those subprime mortgages to smaller banks, and played hot potato until oopsie, economic depression.
If we’re in this boat, who the fuck is buying a home, who approved their loan, and how the fuck is 2008 not right around the corner again?
Good thing we bailed them out.
Thankfully, we are not at risk of another 2008 housing crash at this time - or at least not for the same reason.
The extremely (almost irresponsibly) abridged version of the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis is that banks were giving out loans to people who could not afford to pay them.
The similarly simplified version of what’s going on today is that people cannot afford to take a mortgage and aren’t getting them. Back in the bad old days loan officers would have given out the mortgages anyway to boost their numbers and the bank would have bundled that loan with others to hide it and started the game of hot potato. That isn’t what’s happening today.
That’s not to say a market crash the size of the '08/'09 crash won’t happen, or won’t happen soon, or won’t be caused by the housing market. It’s just that the circumstances that triggered the 2008 crash aren’t present today.
There’s no subprime market ready to collapse. This isn’t a housing bubble. The increase in prices is partially demand and partially inflationary imo.
Interest rates will keep prices level but we aren’t going to see a crash cuz all those companies are cash flush after the ppp fraud and rental Rates skyrocketing. The only houses on the market are ppl who have to sell or ppl who died.
No one wants to jump out of a 3.2% mtg and into an 8% one
Same, but without the SO to help.
New head canon, this is a government conspiracy to push polygamy. I will need at least two wives and three husbands to afford a house.
Oh, I “can”. I just know that $4000/mo is not what we can “afford”. We’d sooner squeeze into her apartment for $1000/mo and not be responsible for anything.
I mentioned in this thread somewhere that I believe we’re in for another 2008 collapse. If I cannot afford a mortgage who the fuck is signing those papers? Same uneducated buyers and predatory lenders as in 2003-2008. I predict a collapse starting this time next year based on I’m high and I just woke up.
No debt since we’re only now looking for houses (yes yes, great timing, I know…) and I frankly wouldn’t know what else I would need to spend so much money on that I would have to go into debt.
ITT: few people having any clue what the difference is between good and bad debt, or that debt is basically essential to creating wealth.
I mean most people saying they don’t have any bad debt, but saying they have good debt isn’t too bad! It is interesting to know how much mortgage people are carrying.
But these days even mortgages feel bad. 400k at 7% is 28k of just interest. So houses feel way out of reach with current prices/rates.
If rates go down prices go up. So doesn’t feel like there is much winning for non home owners.
Housing prices, like everything, is determined by supply/demand. Interest rates are only part of the equation.
The main reason housing is high right now is because of the supply side, and that’s low at the moment because COVID destroyed the global labor market and the supply chain, so materials are sky-high, with fewer people to do the work of building.
Also, as the stock market tanks people move their money into safer places, like cash or property, hurting the supply side even more. This is what cashed up Boomers are doing (yep, we can keep blaming them).
Housing prices won’t come down until supply outweighs demand.
Not sure if you mean per year but mortgages are generally going to be over much longer time periods. A couple who I know are looking to buy somewhere new and are looking at getting £400k mortgage or thereabouts. With rates as they are now, and over 25 years, they’ll end up paying back £900k!
I’ve got 25000 on a 4% interest rate for my car and like 5000 at 0% for a student loan. Y’all Americans live in one of the worst countries
