Is ProtonVPN worth it?

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Got reminded of this while reading about ProtonMail. The reason I haven’t gotten into proper #piracy is that I don’t have a VPN for torrenting, and the reason I don’t have a VPN is that I don’t #torrent. So it would be nice if I got a good VPN while #degoogling myself.

Will ProtonVPN rat me out to Comcast? I know some VPNs don’t hide what you’re downloading from your ISP, for reasons I don’t fully understand.

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From what I’ve heard ProtonVPN isn’t really recommended. Use Mullvad or use AirVPN if you need port forwarding. (Mullvad removed port forwarding a few months ago).

If you are just using a VPN for pirating then I would just spend that VPN money on a seedbox.

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I’ve never heard about arguments against ProtonVPN. Could you elaborate?

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From what I’ve heard ProtonVPN isn’t really recommended.

Why? You can’t attack something like that. At least say what you’ve heard.

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ProtonVPN, NordVPN and Private Internet Access (pia) will pass pretty much every privacy requirement, but if you have a specific requirement there are plenty of comparison charts.

Private Internet Access is capped at 10mbps but it’s the best client and user experience.

ProtonVPN: cancelling was a terrible experience, their client was okay but regularly kill switched. Proton also offers a bundle with email that could be worthwhile

NordVPN: I can not remotely recommend then. In my first 3 months I leaked my IP twice because their VPN client will auto disconnect itself if Internet is disconnected and retrying fails. So if there is an outage, when you reconnect are not protected. You do not want that, because their virtual NIC is insanely unstable and disconnected on 2 separate devices twice a day. In order to cancel you have to talk to support who has a 3 day turn around for tickets and will try to do anything to extend your service past the 30 days they offer a refund. Their entire ToS is fuck you, we don’t refund, guarantee uptime, or security.

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How long back did you use Nord? Their Lynx protocol works very well and never had issues. I’m planning to switch to Proton mainly due to cost saving. Cancelled my subscription to Nord and it’s just a button on the website. Feels the Nord hate is overblown. Would I recommend it to someone doing serious stuff where a leaked ip could mean literal death? No way. But would I trust any VPN out there with my life? Not a chance.

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PIA were taken over by a very dodgy company a couple of years ago, I don’t recommend people use them.

“Who knows what a company that had hidden malware in their software in the past is capable of today”

https://www.vpnranks.com/blog/kape-acquires-private-internet-access/

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You can always bind your torrent client to the tunnel, so there will be no leak without a connection. Also, nordvpn has a Killswitch, which can terminate any program you want, if the VPN is disconnected.

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If you use OpenVPN, their client doesn’t matter

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I feel sillyhearing about safing.io for the first time. Sounds very interesting, thanks

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What do you torrent? I set up real-debrid and usenet and literally do not use any torrent sites anymore whatsoever. Everything I download is downloaded at my max bandwidth. I’d recommend spending the money on that setup instead. VPNs are overpriced for what they offer.

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Wait how do you download stuff without torrenting?

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Usenet

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you can use a debrid service such as real debrid to basically have them dl the torrent and then send you a direct dl link (simplfied explanation). I mainly use real debrid through stremio or kodi addons for streaming shows or movies without torrenting

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You realize this still exposes the fact you are visiting piracy sites?

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ok and?

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The whole reason you get a VPN for piracy is to stop you’re ISP from seeing what you are doing. It also allows you to easily unblock indexer websites. What you are suggesting isn’t a replacement for a VPN in anyway and is likeley to lead to you getting caught and potentially banned by you’re ISP.

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@MonkCanatella that is actually a really good point. I did not think of this.

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For movies and tv, there’s nothing better than usenet. Eweka or easynews as your provider, with nzb.su, nzbgeek, or drunkenslug as your indexer and you’ll never look back. Mix that with radarr/sonarr and it’s the best way to download media. Any of the indexers will be like 20-40 buck for life, and eweka/easynews are bout $40 for the year. real-debrid comes out to about $30 per year. All those sites you see that have rapidgator links and stuff like that, real-debrid turns that into an instant download. You can even use it with jdownloader which makes some of the downloads with like 50 different rapidgator links really easy to download.

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I am fairly sure you still need a VPN when using these services. Is there an advantage to this over using torrents and streming piracy sites?

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I don’t know if this just got initially deleted or whatever, but I use wireguard with a “custom” plan on windscribe, and it’s like $1/month. IPs are shared among hundreds of users and they keep no identifying logs.

I use a split tunnel on the vanilla wireguard client, so I’m not using anything from windscribe software-wise; and I set my torrent client to only use the ethernet device for the tunnel. So no need to worry about kill switches or leaking shit when the VPN drops.

Also – I’ve tested the Wireguard connection on Windscribe and it easily handles 1gb upload/download.

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@thantik yeah that was me. I prefer to keep my Mastodon stuff and Lemmy stuff separate. What happened was that I initially posted this from Lemmy, realized I would rather post this from Mastodon, and deleted the first one so there wouldn’t be duplicates. I wasn’t trying to gaslight you and you didn’t do anything wrong.

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