Authorities in at least three states have arrested individuals allegedly impersonating Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers at a time when real ICE agents have ramped up immigration enforcement efforts under the Trump administration, adding to existing fears of law enforcement among migrant communities.

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You know what I bet would help? If actual ICE agents showed their faces and IDs and had warrants instead of just jumping out of a rental F150 in masks and tactical paintball gear and grabbing people’s babies and punching old people. Just a thought.

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46 points

Hey now, no one could’ve seen this coming. It’s almost like going on the Internet and telling lies, the horror!

But seriously, yeah if they even had a single gram of official procedure and not some slapstick renegade style means of operation, this would be easily bypassed. But I suppose the copycats help the dickheads in charge, so I suppose treat every interaction as a hostile impersonation.

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44 points

At this point, if “ICE” is trying to arrest you, you should fight back with life or death consequences. You should be fully of the belief that if you go quietly, if you allow them to take you, you WILL die.

And that’s not only true of the fake ICE impersonators. It’s true of the real ICE too. They’ve been shipping people to countries they’ve never been, in places they don’t speak the language, to camps where they’re tortured for information that not only do they not have, they also can’t understand the questions, because again, they don’t speak the language.

Someone explain to me how we’re better than 1940s nazis at this point. I’ve never been patriotic, but at this point I can’t even say we’re above literal nazi tactics.

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Considering the average American, I’m actually shocked there haven’t been more shoot-outs*. What’s the point of everyone being strapped if you’re just going to let yourself be yoinked off the street?

*Not super keen on guns but, like, this is the reason (we) Americans profess to be armed, right?

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32 points

You’re obviously a far left radical! What radical ideas are you going to demand next? Due process and the rule of law? Preposterous!

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And if they only went after violent criminals in their territory, instead of being such cowards they’d rather grab law-abiding people at hospitals and schools and churches.

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8 points

Hey, be compassionate. You at least should understand that they need to show big and beautiful numbers to impress the genius man with strategic thinking. It’s hard to do if you come after the actual criminals

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2 points

Were you under any illusion that when they said one they didn’t mean the other?

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It came out of Trump’s mouth, ergo it was a lie.

And the masked gang conducting the abductions are obviously a pusillanimous pack of bullies.

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Meanwhile, in Raleigh, North Carolina, Carl Thomas Bennett was arrested for allegedly impersonating an ICE officer and sexual assaulting a woman at a Motel 6 threatening to deport her if she didn’t comply, according to CNN affiliate WRAL.

Police reports indicated that Bennett, 37, “threatened to deport the victim if she did not have sex with him,” and “displayed a business card with a badge on it,” according to WRAL.

Ah, rape.

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See, that’s what got him caught.

He showed some form of identification, even if fake. The real ICE would never do that.

They may have done the other stuff but we probably wouldn’t know.

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Ah, rape.

The president is a rapist, so why not? It could get you a segment on Fox.

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2 points

The president is a rapist,

And felon. This guy is going places!

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93 points

You can’t impersonate an officer when officers are doing everything in their power to not be recognized as officers. No face, name tag, department, badge, uniform, warrant, marked government vehicle, standard issue side arm, etc. If no one is a cop then everyone can pretend to be a cop.

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4 points

Like Iranian gun teams. They’ll be able to move around fully armed and in the open for a looooooooooong time thanks to ICE. America is so fucked.

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3 points

Correct. Cosplaying Gestapo thugs is not a crime.

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73 points

Who could have forseen this could happen?

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I’m engaging, violently, with a gun, any masked man that molests me or my family. My wife is a legal, brown immigrant. I am a gun nut. I am practiced and I train.

This isn’t bravado, it’s the reality I live. I leave the front curtains open so I can see incoming threats. I close those curtains at night so they can’t see me. I’m scared shitless.

Some of ya’ll “guns BAD” liberals need to take a history class. I’ll die with my boots on thank you very much.

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Gun owning dirty liberal here. I now carry due to my mixed family.

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I’ve been anti-gun my whole life and still am. But the reality of the current situation is I’m getting a gun.

America isn’t a civilized enough nation to move past firearms like other nations have done.

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    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

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