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With the release of Android 14, which is slowly making its way to more devices, it seems like a good time for a community discussion on the direction of Android development.
Discussion Questions:
- What do you think about this latest release?
- Do you think things are going in the right direction?
- Is there anything you’d like to see prioritized in future releases?
- Which device are you on?
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I got the update recently, and don’t really notice anything interesting? It has been running slower recently though
edit: Some apps are busted now too. Spotify is having playback issues for example
This has been my feeling lately. The updates aren’t exciting and all of the goodies are tucked away as Pixel exclusives or Google-specific services (e.g., Google Photos).
Pulling features out of the core os and into apps is better for users though. Keeps the os lean and updates can roll out to users quicker.
I’m some ways yes, in others no.
They’ve been slowly removing power user things that once set Android apart from Apple. For example, a few versions ago, they stopped allowing apps to disable WiFi. I liked having it off when away from home.
It’s a surprisingly capable tool. I’m still surprised we don’t have a system-level Tasker or Shortcuts tool.
You can still do this without root, but the app needs to target an older SDK version, meaning you can’t install it from Google Play. And even if you get the APK, Android will only let you install it through ADB. You can run an ADB shell on-device with Shizuku, so you don’t need a computer. Still annoying they made it so difficult though.
Love Shizuku. I just dislike that I need to re-enable wireless ADB every reboot.
I’m running 13 and it’s been great. I do think overall that Android is going in the right direction.
Material You in particular was a great decision. I love colour this feature adds so much colour to every app. Talk about taking customisation to the next level. 😊
The lock screen customisation in 14 completes that transition.
I also think the improving Google Assistant by adding Bard is a move in the right direction. As long as they roll it out to all phones, irrespective of age. After all, Assistant runs in the cloud, not on the phone so any device should be able to just it.
I am concerned about Google but releasing enough Android features into AOSP. For example the colour picker you use to choose a colour from your wallpaper they originally kept as proprietary forcing OEM’s to write their own. Only later did they release it to AOSP because they released OEM’s weren’t getting it right.
I believe all new Android features most be in AOSP. Only Google specific stuff shouldn’t eg Google apps and gcam.
I have to assume that the Pixel 8 getting 7 years of support means that Android won’t be getting heavier in future, so that it will remain fast 7 years from now.
Which is good news. Android 14 is supposed to be even faster and more efficient they say, but we’ll see. There are still some bugs from what I’ve read so OEM’s will need time to adapt and optimise it. It will be a few months before we really know.
Android has hardly been getting heavier. Running recent Android on a 1st gen Moto E flies!
That said, recent full-fat Android shipped by an OEM to their devices can be heavier due to the OEM shipping more system services running in the background. I don’t have numbers to supports this but the base Android OS has mostly just received performance optimizations over the years. For example the Java runtime has gone from Dalvik sans JIT, to Dalvik with JIT, to ART, to ART with major improvements, etc.
I agree with you. I didn’t mean to imply it was heavy but just to say I reckon that will keep it a as light (or lighter) than it already is.
One of Android’s many strengths is how it can both run on older hardware, “weak” cpu’s as well as run apps developed for Android 5 and higher. Ios cannot do any of those things.
Is Android going in the right direction?
Not really, IMO. As a user of Android since v1.5 Cupcake, it’s disappointing to see how locked down Android has become over the years. I still recall how I took a leap of faith when I ditched the then highly customisable and feature-full Windows Mobile, to the barebones Android - I believed in the opensource nature of Android, thinking how exciting it was to be on what could be a developer’s and power user’s dream mobile platform. Although the Android dev scene at the time was nascent, I could forsee an explosion of root utilities, mods and custom ROMs. And I was right - the early Android dev scene was so exciting. From cool and useful utility such as DriveDroid or Chainfire’s CF.Lumen, to innovative custom ROMs such as Paranoid Android with their per-app DPI, Halo, Pie controls etc, the early Android scene was full of activity and really exciting as a power user.
But even as Android got more and more locked down and killed my favorite apps, mods and ROMs, I still enjoyed following many of it’s developments such as the projects Butter, Svelte, Volta, Treble and Mainline. However, I can’t recall anything major or exciting in recent years.
As someone else here mentioned, nowadays all the good stuff seems to be Pixel exclusives (like motion deblur, 7 years or software updates etc). Plus, Google keep pushing more and more stuff towards their proprietary Play Services stack, encouraging developers dependency on them - including anti-freedom features such as Play Integrity (SafetyNet). All of this makes it increasingly harder to break free from Google’s grasps, and as former fanboy of a company which once claimed to “not be evil”, it makes me sad that the ecosystem I once looked fondly towards, is now something that I’m looking to move away from.
I do agree with some points. However, most of these changes are somehow related to security. As someone working in FinTech, play integrity and the likes are something you cant escape, as rooted devices,ROMs, emulators and such are 90% are ‘hackers’. Shame google didn’t think of a way to bake it into Andorid itself… Having it in their services is locking Android so much.To add, lately all the “new” features are something that Samsung already had for years. Like Knox work profile container added to Android. Samsung seems to be evolving Android more than Google which is just sad.
They’ll give the excuse of ‘security’ for any anti-consumer feature, but I’ll never accept exchanging control over my device for ‘security’.
Would you sacrifice NFC/Wallet features to have that freedom back? I personally would not.
I do see a genuine market for a phone you can root and apply custom ROMs etc on, but not do banking or public transport tickets or anything else that needs a layer of trust between the merchant and the phone user.
Windows is both more open, and more secure, than android in every practical sense, while being closed source.
I’m a fervent believer in open-sourcs, but Google and their advertising funded business model has poisoned Android.
No. Everything went to shit in 12 with material 3/material you. It looks so bad. Bring back material 2.
Also of course there’s the whole privacy nightmare that android with Google services is.
