A month after a pig heart transplant, man works to regain strength with no rejection so far::It’s been a month since a Maryland man became the second person to receive a transplanted heart from a pig — and hospital video released Friday shows he’s working hard to recover.

144 points

Growing genetically modified pigs with human-like hearts to save human lives? The ethics of that are a bit complicated, but from a STEM perspective it’s a really fascinating idea. What a time to be alive.

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There’s nothing ethically wrong with this until we consider eating meat unethical. As a society, we’re nowhere near that.

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21 points

You’re breeding and killing an animal for its organs, and some would find that unethical. But you are doing it to save a human life, so it’s a bit of a trolley problem I suppose.

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60 points

It’s not less ethical than doing it for meat, is my point.

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That’s literally what the meat industry is though. I guess in americanized cultures more of the animal is seen as waste parts rather than food, but those probably become hot dogs anyways.

Anyways, the way I see it meat for eating, and even pig organ transplants are both raising a pig to put parts of its body into a human’s body.

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17 points

Is it different from breeding and killing an animal to eat it?

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eating meat is unethical

capitalism doesnt care for ethics if government banned meat and news articles said moderately disparaging things about it for a week the entirety of the US would likely change their stance

because everyone is an AI that parrots what (they think) smarter people say

if you think im wrong lets talk about how people feel about drugs or literally any problem thats sensationalized. you idiots will believe anything if the news says it.

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Ethics are not an absolute and are defined by the society in which they occur.

YOU think it’s unethical. I happen to agree. We are in the minority.

And all of that is irrelevant to my point, which is that growing animals for organs is not LESS ethical than growing them for meat, and everyone seems fine with that.

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66 points

As much as I love animals (more than most people I meet), as a species we must value human life over animal life to some extent. Suffering for corporate exploitation? No, that’s cruel and evil. Minimal suffering in an organism to save a human life? I wish there was a way to keep it from being sentient (so no suffering is felt), but I believe it’s a fair trade for a human life. But yes, we must always strive to minimize the suffering we cause.

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Are you vegan?

Edit: ahh the sweet sweet cognitive dissonance lol

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I’m not vegan, though I do recognize the issues. I have reduced my meat intake, but I’m not at zero. I’m perfectly aware I’m a hypocrite, but it doesn’t make the claim above (which I agree with but did not author) any less accurate.

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I definitely don’t value humans enough to use an animal as an incubator for a heart. It’s cruel and extremely unethical. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise that animals don’t also deserve life just the same as humans.

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37 points

All animals under all circumstances?

If I’m driving down the road, and a squirrel runs out of nowhere, and I can either hit it or jerk the wheel and fly off the road, I risk that my car will save me, because it will for sure kill the squirrel?

What if you have a child born with a heart issue that will kill it, and there is an option to euthanize a pig that will likely save your child child life, you would let your child die in lieu of the pig?

Yea, I’ma call bullshit on that one. It’s good that you value the lives of all creatures, and you think that you value them equally to humans, but you’re lying to yourself.

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37 points

That’s good for your beliefs, but a useless argument for anyone who eats meat. Raising and slaughtering a pig to provide a human a heart is even more useful than raising one for its meat, and chances are that the one raised for its heart was taken much better care of before being killed.

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18 points

This only really tracks if you’re vegan, which you may be. But if we slaughter a million pigs for meat is that really any different? We already incubate them for bacon, are you really so against this that you’d let a family member die than slaughter a pig for its heart?

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12 points

I hope we get to mass manufacturing lab grown hearts quickly. No need to harm sentients.

1 Star Trek replicator please!

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6 points

Easy just grow cabbages with human-like hearts to appease the vegans.

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See ? show this to the next person who says ‘ACAB’

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5 points

I doubt this pig opted-in to the donation. If it wasn’t a choice, it doesn’t make them good.

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It’s a joke, the OP is implying that the pig that “donated” the heart was a cop.

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3 points

I’m aware.

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39 points

Real life zombie pigman

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8 points

We all know he has a gold sword somewhere in his house.

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31 points

Same guy gonna rush to the doctor after his heart rate hits 200 while staring at some mud

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30 points

Has he gained any pig-like superpowers so far?

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5 points

“Spider Pig, Spider Pig, Does whatever a Spider Pig does…”

I’m surprised and mildly disappointed no one else commented this.

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