Progressives aim to reinstate equilibrium to state’s lopsided politics that DeSantis has, in the eyes of some, dragged into fascism

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Little too late it seems. But if they are going to do something, then they better get a move on, lots of people moving out of state.

It’s bad down here.

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Florida is different because so many older, more conservative retirees move to Florida. And they vote. If it wasn’t for that, Florida would probably have been pretty solidly blue at this point.

On the other hand, that has opened up other states for Democrats, e.g. Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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Florida is red because of gerrymandering.

Biden lost the popular vote in Florida by one or two percent. IRC De Santis won the state by less than 1%. Voters have often and overwhelmingly voted in favour of ‘left-wing’ ballot initiatives too.

It should be a swing state.

In any case, conservative retirees may be moving to Florida, but they’re also mor likely to leave Florida and this mortal coil than the average voter.

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Or on occasion, the Supreme Court decides that Fla votes R for them.

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And wouldn’t you know it, some of the people in that case are now on the court

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Desantis was re-elected with almost 60% of the vote. Trump did only win by less than 2% but turnout was almost 30% lower in 2022 than it was in 2020.

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He won by less than a percentage point in 2018. When he ran against Charlie Crist in 2022 he won with close to 60%, but that was more about Crist being a garbage candidate who stumped for Sarah Palin happily in 2008 but decided the Republican party was irredeemable in 2010 (after he lost a Republican primary to Marco Rubio). Run someone who isn’t a transparent hack against DeSantis and he’s totally beatable, even with Florida voters.

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Florida is red because of gerrymandering.

50% of Florida voters couldn’t be bothered to go vote in the last election. Stop thinking that everything can be blamed on gerrymandering. In even the most heavily gerrymandered districts, Dems could win if only they could get voters off their asses and out to the polls. To be clear, I am NOT saying it isn’t an issue, but I am sick of far too many on the Left using gerymandering or the EC as their crutch as to why they lose elections when they do not have a focused platform or compelling candidates in far too many races.

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You have a point.

I suspect going on about gerrymandering too much, and inadvertently convincing some democratic voters they can’t win because of gerry mandering, isn’t helping either.

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This is such bullshit that blames voters instead of blaming political parties for failing to reach them and speak to their needs and issues. Democrats would get voters to the polls if they gave them something to vote FOR as opposed to AGAINST. Isn’t it always interesting that a Republican minority in government seems to exert power and influence that their Democratic minority counterparts can’t? Democrats are woefully inept at combating fascism and I hold them responsible for the likes of Desantis after years of compromising with a cabal of theocatic nationalists that have been hell-bent on turning the US into Christian Iran.

“Vote for me and your life won’t get any worse than it already is!” is not inspiring, and fear only motivates the people directly in the line of fire and the most empathetic of others.

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*illegal gerrymandering

Let’s not forget, Florida passed an anti-gerrymandering law. DeSantis straight up ignored it

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If any are left. I don’t see normal minded people dying to move to Florida

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For a while, we had a lot of abnormal people moving here & then dying of COVID.

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IMHO let all the R’s move to Florida and concentrate themselves there. Make the rest of the states purple/blue.

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you going to help the people who didn’t choose to live there get out? Really tired of people forgetting about marginalized and minorities getting the worst of this in these states. Also even if we could, you want to take all the fascists and get them together in a single spot that they can then use to strengthen their “Us vs Them” arguments? That’s how you get deadlier and even worst fascists.

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I’m a Florida refugee mysekf with family there.

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Kinda makes it worse. You got out so screw everyone else?

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“hurrdurr lets just force 400,000+ people to become internally displaced refugees because as a liberal I’m too timid and cowardly to fight fascism. I’m sure they’ll just stay in their state and not try to impose their views on the rest of the country”

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The Republican strategy there seems to be deterring liberals from coming or staying in the state through these laws. At the same time whatever children are there will have a very watered dawn education to indoctrinate them and filter our former atrocities.

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