I had an account on lemmy.one and now the instance has been down for a day or two so I made this new account. I also heard other small instances are dead or disappeared.

So which ones do you think will actually stick around for a long time?

ALSO, does anyone know how to get my subscriptions from lemmy.one and import it here? TIA!

67 points

Instances with

more than one admin
clear policies and active moderation
engaged user base
regular backups
no porn

…will stand a better chance than most.

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No porn? Why?

.ca allows porn. You actually have to click “show NSFW” during sign up if you want to see it, so it’s not on by default, and it’s very easy to turn on/off if you want it.

I find that the instances that ban porn also ban a lot of other stuff that isn’t bad. Feels like I’m in church and everything is being censored.

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Surely keeping the csam out means someone on every nsfw instance needs to look at a whooole lotta porn, including sick stuff they really really don’t want to see. For no pay. I can’t see a way for that to last long so either an instance bans porn or stops moderating and gets defederated.

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Sure, but isn’t that something all of the instances will have to deal with, whether they allow nsfw content or not, I bet people will try to post it. And the trolls/sabouteurs will go for the sick shit.

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I could see a better chance with one of the experienced porn Admins from Reddit, they have years of experience and are probably used to even worse shit!

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Depending on your hosting provider TOS you may not be able to host porn without risking your instance.

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NSFW and Porn are not the same thing.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work

The marked content may contain graphic violence, pornography, profanity, nudity, slurs or other potentially disturbing subject matter.

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I’m hopeful that the well moderated nsfw instances stick around so no 4chan-esque instances have a chance to replace them and metastasize past mass defederation

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Same here lol. I’m keen to keep this instance going even if I end up being the only user. I’ve toyed with the idea of what I might do if I did end up with a bunch of users (would i cap at a certain amount of usrrs, how would I put the feelers out to get mods, etc).

The “niche” I’m going for is no reliance on public cloud. I run everything on my own hardware, back it up myself, scale it as needed and maintain it myself. That won’t appeal to everyone, but I’m not trying to be the biggest instance.

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Not to sound too pessimistic, but we live in a time where we see Twitter collapsing, despite being one of those “too big to fail” websites. My bet is that none will stand the test of time, the web is ephemeral (and archive.org is an underappreciated wonder of the world). I would rather say that what you really need is a backup routine.

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On one hand, a Sonic hacking forum I’ve been a part of since before its current forum software has been running the same database since 2003, on the other hand I fully acknowledge that it’s the exception and not the rule.

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So have other forums. Maybe it’s just these newfangled social media websites that have longevity issues?

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Because they crave more growth rather than prioritizing stability and being true to what they’re purpose of existence is. These social media forum try to be everything and that is their downfall. Being focused on what you were built for and being damn good at it is the real key to a platform’s long life.

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Doomworld still going strong since the 90s as well.

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10 points

I wish they stayed longer or given notice if they’re disappearing.

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Yes indeed, giving proper notice seems like minimal etiquette. Then again, life happens. Admin may be caught in some tragedy making maintaining their lemmy instance not exactly a priority, or they may even be dead.

There is not much you can do to just migrate your account somewhere else, that’s a limitation of federation (compared to fully decentralized protocols, like Secure Scuttlebutt), but I’d wish Lemmy would implement ActivityPub’s following endpoint, so we can easily build scripts to backup the communities we’re in.

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I guess instances run by SDF. They’ve been around since 1987 when they started with BBS. And since 1991 they are running the public access UNIX system. They also have Mastodon servers, Minecraft server and other stuff. These are their Lemmy instances:

lemmy.sdf.org - somewhere in US
lemmy.sdfeu.org - Falkenstein, Vogtland, Germany
lemmy.sdfjp.org - Tokyo, Japan
lemmy.sdfcn.org - Hong Kong
lemmy.sdfin.org - Mumbai, India

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Cool! I’ll sign upf or one.

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Yeah. Good list.

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Don’t think this is a strange phenomenon or that it’s permanent. I’ve seen Mastodon (and Pleroma and Misskey etc) instances get born and die regularly. This is because it’s easy to set up an instance but it’s also easy to fall in an economic problem or just give up.

Not everyone is ready to set up their own instance; it requires dedication and resources.

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The fediverse really needs some kind of universal login and a way to easily migrate accounts between instances.

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Not so much migrate as be able to use it from anywhere and have it replicated. Same with communities.

Give things a unique ID, and access it from anywhere, even if the original server goes away.

This kind of thing may not be possible with current ActivityPub protocols, but there’s always room for improvement.

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The universal login is a very old suggestion but it’srealluy hard to pull off because that would have to be build into the core of the protocol. About the migration, that’s a Lemmy issue, not a general Fediverse one

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Not really; login mechanisms are a separate thing. OAuth already exists. You only need Fediverse software to accept OAuth from anywhere and to provide it to others.

The migration part is IMO harder, but not necessarily by much. I don’t know of any fediverse software that’d allow it though.

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23 points

Out of the loop, what happened to Lemmy.one?

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Seems to be down, I haven’t heard any news but can no longer log in

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12 points

Website seems to still exist, maybe they’re doing some involved equipment upgrade.

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Some people are speculating a database error, because apparently 0.18.3 requires a database migration to work, here’s the other post I just saw about this: https://lemdit.com/post/262746

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