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“The countries of Central and Latin America “threw cold water” on the EU’s efforts to unite the continent to support Ukraine and call for colonial reparations in a counter-proposal to the draft declaration of the upcoming EU summit.”

So on one hand they are not interested in standing up against the Russian attempt to colonize Ukraine but on the other hand they are very interested about colonial reparations?

So… are they pro colonization or anti colonization?

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Just like Europe isn’t interested in LATAM’s problems, LATAM isn’t interested in Europe’s problems. Take that as you will.

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Just like the sounds of my neighbor beating the shit of his wife isn’t any of my concern. I have absolutely no moral obligation to help people in need.

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I could say the same of Europe for the last, I dunno, century maybe. All those brutal US backed dictatorships and where were they?

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Well… that’s convenient.

So then the colonization of Latin America was a Latin American problem and not an European one.

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I’m pretty sure LATAM doesn’t expect any reparations lol. This is more of a “fuck off, why should we help you if you don’t help us” kind of deal.

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Enjoy being vassals of China in the future then I guess.

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Or even worse. China coups Lula in Brazil, plants a puppet who goes Russia on their neighbors.

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I think it’s about showing that they want to be treated as an equal partner. Since eu made it all about their priorities they countered by replacing european concerns with latin american concerns in their proposal.

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TIL Ukrainian lives are only a European concern

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you seem to be presenting a false dichotomy. or you conflate high priorities with concerns.

if it’s not intentional, hopefully today you’ll learn that latin america prioritizing latin american issues does not mean that other issues are of no concern. for latin america there are more pressing issues.

edit: your reply doubles down on insisting that because it’s not the highest priority then the only conclusion is it cannot be a concern. you are the only one claiming that latin america position is that the issue does not need attention. It looks like you can’t accept that latin america has it’s own priorities and dosen’t have to prioritize whatever eu says should be at the top. this is more like we agree to make a joint statement and the first draft you send me is all about you you and you with no mention of me. so i send you another draft deleting everything about you and putting me first second and third place. it’s a message.

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It’s interesting to see the perspective of non-Western/global south audiences compared to a Western/global north audience.

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South America has suffered with American coups for many decades now, none of us want to take part on America’s Proxy Wars.

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You know Ukraine is located in Europe right? And this is more of a case of shoring up Europe’s borders against an agresssor trying to reclaim they former territory?

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Why is the agressor attacking Ukraine though, has any liberal journal told you the reason? Has any of them told you about the american military bases quickly encroaching into Russian territory?

Has any of them told you the kind of policies Zelensky implemented? No, they haven’t.

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Last I checked, having a military base is not grounds for invasion and sovereign countries have a right to determine their alliances.

And even if it was grounds for an invasion, which it emphatically is not, Ukraine didn’t have any and the major European states were against Ukraine joining NATO until after the invasion.

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Did I miss something? Did America force Russia to invade Ukraine?

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South America in favor of war crimes, gotcha.

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Just like Europe has been in favour of war crimes in South America for centuries. First directly and then indirectly through supporting the US.

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Nice whataboutism you got there. There is such a thing as “the good fight”. Either you stand behind Ukraine in their fight for survival, or behind russia in their demonstration of what happens when a country is collectively falling apart due to fetal alcohol spectrum disorder.

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