This vibes anecdotally with my local chapter. In the face of overwhelming membership solidarity with Palestinian liberation, the social imperialist reactionaries are purging themselves.
I quit DSA because it wasn’t Leftist enough.
You quit DSA because it wasn’t Zionist enough.
We are not the same.
It sounds like it’s moving left, though it also sounds like this has only been possible due to a mass drop in membership following the failure of the Bernie campaigns. Marxist Unity Group seems like their worth checking out as an internal bloc to the DSA and where it could go
Funnily enough, the 3 he listed (Red Star, MUG, and Commie Caucus) are the 3 I’d most recommend people check out. Unless you have a strong preference for one of them I’d just join whichever is most active in your area.
But they remained united in one overarching shared aim—to take a well-meaning, not particularly well-organized, and essentially social democratic organization still committed in practice to the original DSA vision of creating “the left wing of the possible,” and reinvent it as the mass vanguard party of the proletariat that somehow they had never been able to pull off while operating under their own banners of deepest red.
Founding member of popular socialist group doesn’t know definition of socialist.
Yup, that’s America.
Amazing how this just hits pretty much every radlib talking point.
- “we need to work with the Democratic party”
- “the left wing of the possible” aka “pragmatism”
- “Marxists are evil dictators”
- Zionists
- “Israel has a right to defend itself”
- “Israel has a right to exist”
- “RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA, we have to support the Nazis in Ukraine!”
- Uyghur “genocide”
- “purity tests”
- believing the IOF’s claims of Hamas’s actions
Also, you don’t have to read the article now, I just summed it up. Unless you really want to read about the radlib history of the DSA.
the horrific Hamas October 7 anti-Jewish pogrom
That is a wild way to frame an attack from within a ghetto against the nation that starves them in a ghetto
Its the same way we’d phrase a prison break here in the US.
The prisoners used violence against the guards, which is an unacceptable reversal of roles. The inmates that broke out have condemned everyone in the jail, since anyone might have shown them aid or even sympathy. The inmates are presumed dangerous, presumed deserving of punishment, and presumed less than human. Hell, its not far off from the way we described New Orleans residents fleeing Hurricane Katrina. Or Haitians escaping their own island prison.
What we’re witnessing in Palestine isn’t far from what American politicians want to implement at home. That’s what is so fucking chilling about all this. Palestine is our future.
Yeah, if Hamas took pains to avoid hurting non-Jewish whites or something like that, then there might be a real question of antisemitism. Or if they, like, greased their bullets with shellfish (halal but not kosher) or literally screamed “death to Jews” or . . . Basically anything inconsistent with simply lashing out in violence against the colonizer population, which is not what a pogrom is.
Pogroms are enacted by powerful groups against disenfranchised, oppressed and weak groups. It’s literally impossible for Palestinians to pogrom Israelis, they simply don’t have the means
I disagree with that. In the same way that a revolutionary party is functionally a state, if Hamas took over even one city block in Israel for a few hours and said “kill all the Jews, release the rest”, they are the dominant power in that time and place and are thereby not part of your logic.
But that is not what they did, so it is a moot point.
Eat shit Zionist dog.
This should be in c/the_dunk_tank. Entryism is when people join my org. Imagine the DSA being too radical for you
Lol yeah the whole entryism framing is so silly. Like the author says it’s a bad thing when his party gains new members unless they completely agree with some old socdems?
