“So, we have to be careful. You got to get out there and watch those voters,” Trump said, adding, “You don’t have to vote, don’t worry about voting. The voting, we got plenty of votes.”
He’s saying that he’s going to win by force. And he probably will. It’s over.
What is over exactly?
Why do you say “he probably will” as if it was a done deal?
Are you a trump shill?
@spaceghoti hit the high points. The presumptive nominee for President of the United States for one of two major parties is openly fascist, with exactly zero consequences. He has a lot of people on his side, many of whom are already in positions of power in government, in all three branches, and in the press.
There have been plenty of opportunities for consequences to be laid upon these people who are still working to overthrow the foundations of democracy. None have been laid. None. I have zero faith in the ability of a democratic government to be able to put down this fascism.
Are you a trump shill?
You are free to browse my comment history to make your own judgment on that. Or go fuck yourself, your choice.
“Go fuck yourself”
Ok, I deserve that for insulting you.
But moving on, I disagree with you. If he couldn’t overturn the elections while being president, he won’t be able to do shit now.
They’re saying democracy in the US is over. The slow walk of prosecutions against the Jan. 6th insurgents, particularly its organizers, has given the fascists the confidence to do it again at a national level. We’ll either have to fight back with equal violence, flee, or submit to their dictatorship.
The slow walk of prosecutions against the Jan. 6th insurgents
A sane legal system takes time. While I agree the organizers have mostly gotten off scott-free, it’s because they know how to keep themselves in the grey area even knowing full-well how the uneducated, violent people will react to their messages. The rubes have gotten hard time and I feel potential rubes have taken some notice. They’ll still play the victim all day, but they seem less hesitant to join calls to action.
They’ve been doubling down on voter suppression and various other legislative bullshit.
Yeah, I’m a bit concerned about that myself. I live in a red state, but a blue city that is 43% black. They have arcane voting laws that force you to stand in line for hours. I can definitely imagine a scenario where long voting lines in the city are attacked by white nationalist gunmen, and all the law-abiding unarmed voters are defenseless. This won’t stop me from voting or having my long gun in the truck, but it is something I’ve been concerned about.
Im definitely not voting in this presidential election (Because I am Australian)
Let’s game this out the way some of the comments are saying.
Scenario 1: Proud Boys and other right wing militant groups stand around polling places with open carry weapons to intimidate Democrat-leaning districts. Maybe it doesn’t chase everyone away, but we know a lot of election officials are complaining about threats and have quit. So it’s going to have some effect. Enough to swing the vote? I don’t think that matters. It’s still election interference.
Scenario 2: right wing militants show up, and so do various antifa groups to counter them. Maybe antifa show up armed, maybe not. Either way, it’s an escalation. Escalating tensions with guns present significantly increases the chances that someone uses their gun, regardless of who shoots first. The first shots in a civil war? Then the right wing militants win, because they’ve been agitating for this for years. Who wins is immaterial to the millions of people who will suffer as a result.
Scenario 3: polling places are reinforced with police and National Guards as necessary to prevent any election interference. They can be present to “observe” but they’re not allowed to intimidate anyone. This is the only scenario I can see where democracy is defended and preserved.
Agree or disagree? What am I missing? Where am I wrong?
You’re missing that the police etc and the proud boys etc are the same group.
Nah, he’s missing: 4. The Fat Boys only show up in red counties, having no impact whatsoever. They pass out drunk in the parking lot of the voting locations and their wives and kids have a quiet night to themselves.
They forget to vote. They don’t intimidate anyone because the few liberals who live there voted early. They later complain it was “rigged”.
I don’t think that matters. It’s still election interference.
Short of cancelling the election after the polling has happened, how do you expect to counter that if Trump wins because of it?
Didn’t South Park already kind of pick up on the fact that Trump gives off the vibe that he doesn’t REALLY want to be President, he just wants the perks of campaigning?
Mr. Garrison in like a whole 8 months of clips basically plots and plans on how he can get OUT of it, only to keep finding himself in situations where he somehow gets further in the polls.
This feels exactly like that.
You mean how he looked completely miserable election night with everyone else around him celebrating?
He just wants his name in lights. It’s a personality disorder.
He doesn’t want to do anything. He never has had to.
It’s not talked about how just so seriously mentally ill trump is. The Goldwater rule is probably for the best, but trump is, well, just look into the DSM. Way worse than Goldwater.The wiki captures it as well.
I went to a lecture of a criminal psychologist recently about psychopathy. Psychopaths are often also narcissists, and there are a number of personality traits to identify them. The more traits one has, the more likely the person is a clinical narcissist. Trump would check all those boxes, every single one.
Thing is, this time around he’s either in the White House or in federal prison. Stupid as he is, I think he still understands that much.
RemindMe - 13 months. :)
I’m not going to say Trump has NO path to victory, he does, but it won’t be a landslide. There are also a growing number of paths that would take him out of the race before the election even happens.
Edit Pretending Trump has no path is partly how he won in 2016. No vote can be taken for granted.
When I looked at this, there were 132 downvotes, why was it even still visible?
Nah, they’re just a downvote troll. Look at their history. Account created yesterday and already at -522 comment karma. This is why reddit ended up capping downvotes at -100 because idiots like that person used to love to make a game out of seeing who could get the most downvotes.
Never really looked at it from that angle, almost seems a decent argument for removing visible downvotes all together. Should I not be as pissed at YT as I think I should be?
Imagine being such a sycophantic cuck that you are willing to publicly argue that some fuck, who wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire on the side of the road, is going to win in a landslide after already losing the popular vote twice.
Especially on a post where that same dumbshit just told the rest of your cult members not to vote, and you all hang on his every word like it’s water in the fucking desert. I’d say this was a joke, but there ain’t nothing funny about it.
It’s really funny. All those power phrases and one-upmanship games played by Trumpetts are like people who roll coal or drive loud muscle cars - people waving around their tiny-dick-insecurity energy for everyone to see, somehow convinced they’re hiding anything.
Or all those conservatives obsessed with which consenting adult another consenting adult is sleeping with. Though there I’m pretty sure it’s just repressed jealousy because I can’t imagine giving that much of a fuck about an issue that I wasn’t deeply personally invested in.
