Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, a sign of the president’s strength in uniting his party to have the backing of one of its most liberal members

73 points

Well that’s unfortunate. Wish we could find someone other than an old fucking white guy to represent us.

permalink
report
reply
35 points

For real. Even as a white guy, I’m tired of this shit as well. Wish we could get someone younger and more progressive on the ballot. It’s time to get those old ducks out of office. They have no grasp on how shit really works these days.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points
*

I agree, but generally a party will back a sitting president of that party, additionally division of the Democratic party is what caused trump’s election in the first place.

I wonder if she’s being groomed to be the next candidate. I would like that a lot, but what the Democratic needs right now is unity, because the Republican party is very divided.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

She’s probably being groomed for House leadership. She has a relatively safe seat and seems willing to put the work in being a good representative. However, to do that, she needs to build the caucuses that she is in.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

If the Democratic party needs unity when the Republicans are divided, when exactly would dissent ever be acceptable? Seems like this is just a pitch to always be unified, which in turn means never challenging the party establishment.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

The system has been formed that way intentionally. That’s one of the huge issues with our election system actually

permalink
report
parent
reply
59 points
*

The fact that someone like Biden and Bernie exist in the same party tells you how awful the 2-party system is.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Bernie has said some really nice things about the Biden Administration.

permalink
report
parent
reply
28 points

Too be fair - the Biden administration isn’t all bad and I think when they do something good we should acknowledge that so that maybe they keep doing good things. That doesn’t mean I don’t think there are better options, though.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points
*

I mean, it’s not that hard to. Even simply coherent sentences are like ambrosia after the previous administration, and Joe’s got actual things to say on top of that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

I’m hoping for Newsom 2028. In the meantime, Biden will probably be infinitely better than the alternative in the general election.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-8 points
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

What specifically do you like about Newsom?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

He’s not old.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

He’s got a great smile.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

I like how Newsom fought to deregulate zoning in California, and I think we need such deregulation nationwide.

Single-family zoning is a blight on this country.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

There are many that believe Biden won’t run and the seat is being saved for Gavin Newsom.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

We’ll see if Biden drops out, but he is currently running.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

February 2024 I expect Biden to name a successor. He would be viewed as a lame duck if he didn’t pretend to be running right now.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Ugh

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Time will tell, but Newsom would still beat Trump.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Barf

permalink
report
reply
5 points

She doesn’t have a choice because the party isn’t allowing a primary.

They know they have a captive audience. As shitty as Biden is, he’s obviously better than any Republican and 3rd party doesn’t have a chance.

The party would rather risk depressing turnout than someone progressive winning a primary

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

That’s exactly how they lost in 2016.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

There is no progressive that could win the primary anyway. The risk the establishment is guarding against is about damaging Biden. I don’t feel confident about his chances against anyone but Trump, but there just isn’t an alternative politician with the strength to challenge him as an incumbent. He simply hasn’t been bad enough for weakly ideological primary voters to vote against the incumbent and the names with the biggest progressive gravitas already lost against him last time without that hindrance.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

In 2020 29 candidates entered the Dem primary…

I’m pretty sure most are still around here somewhere

But between this in your other reply I already got, I’m picking up a pattern

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Systems broken, it’s her only option. If she endorses a progressive challenger to Biden she is basically saying she wants trump or desantis to be the next president. I am sure she is aware of this

Vote in more progressive candidates to congress and the house so that actual electoral reform has a hope of passing. The small contingency they hold is pointless from a legislative standpoint but promising in terms of growth over the past decade and a half or so. The more bodies we get in there the more actual shit might happen; but unless we displace neolibs and conservatives these stupid games will continue to be necessary

permalink
report
parent
reply
-4 points

Damn, I really had hope for the Justice Dems, but this is just sadge.

Is she pulling an Elizabeth Warren and thinking this will help secure her a cabinet position?.. oof.

permalink
report
reply
5 points

How is this sad, exactly?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-5 points

Because Biden isn’t working for the people, he works for his corporate donors. He won’t take action to materially improve our lives, and we deserve better leadership than that. We deserve a progressive who will beat him in the primaries and begin to right the wrongs of neoliberalism.

Justice Dems like AOC falling in line will not further that cause, and it makes me sad because I had hoped for more from her.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

They clearly said “sadge”.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

What do you think would be better?

Considering in our political system a 3rd party doesn’t have a chance, and the Democratic party is refusing to hold a primary…

What other option is there besides endorsing Biden?

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

Endorse someone else and cause the democraric vote to be split and ensuring a fascist victory. I mean that’s kinda what happened in Weimar Republic with the Communist Party refusing to work with the Social Democrats.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-5 points

It’s a fair question asked in a dark time for our nation.

I guess my answer would be: do anything but fall in line with corporate Dems. Publicly demanding a primary since Biden reneged on yet another campaign promise of being 1 term would be a good start.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Publicly demanding a primary since Biden reneged on yet another campaign promise of being 1 term would be a good start.

  1. That would be used to poison voters against progressives for decades.

  2. If you think that has a chance in hell of doing anything besides helping trump… It actually explains you’re first comment, I understand why you think that’s a good idea. You’re wrong of course tho

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points
*

Why doesn’t AOC run? I’d vote for her. I’ve been impressed with her job so far

permalink
report
reply
5 points

I think they know she can’t win right now. No real progressive can yet. They need to build up her record more and let more of the old neo-libs die off first.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Bullshit. It’s because they don’t want a real progressive to win. They did everything they could to keep Bernie from winning when he ran. The left wing of our government is further right than the right was 50 years ago, and the DNC will do whatever they have to do to keep it that way.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points
*

Kinda feels like you’re angrily agreeing with me while using different words while acting like you’re arguing against me.

This isn’t reddit, not every comment section has to be A vs B arguments.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

Run in the primary the party isn’t allowing?

She can’t run in something that doesn’t exist.

Run 3rd party in the general?

Progressives tend to care enough about America they won’t hand the election to trump

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

If someone big declared (AOC included), the party would have to run a primary, because arbitrarily shutting them out would be more damaging than debates and internal dissent, but all the big names know they couldn’t win a primary and would only hurt Biden in the general so they’re falling in behind him. As long as it’s joke challengers like RFK Jr. and Marianne Williamson though, they can scrap it without worry.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Isn’t she too young still? I was under the impression you had to be 35 to run for president.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

AOC is 33 years old. You have to be at least 35 years old to run for president.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

She’ll be old enough by the time she’d be sworn in, which is the actual age requirement.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

2028 would be the earliest that she would be viable on one condition. If millenials and Gen Z voted Democratic nearly 100%. Ideally, this should happen because that would mean 2-3 red states and every other state is blue. So, we’re going to have to wait for 2032 at the earliest or 2036 for AOC to have her time to shine. I’d gladly vote for her.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-6 points

She probably couldn’t win a statewide office, let alone the Presidency.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Yes she could, she has the most support in the Democratic Party, much more than Biden does because Americans relate to her, no one except old boomers relate to Biden

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

She isn’t old enough.

permalink
report
parent
reply
54 points

Did anyone expect anything different? I don’t recall incumbent presidents ever having a real primary.

permalink
report
reply
42 points
*

Jimmy Carter did-- Ted Kennedy challenged him for the 1980 presidential nomination. The result was them doing so much damage to each other that the ultimate winner of the primary (Carter) came out battered and bruised, giving Reagan the edge he needed to win the general. And we all know how well that worked out for the planet. (Spoiler alert: horrifically.)

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

That was the opposite tho…

That was “moderate” party leaders trying to sabotage a progressive at any cost.

That fucked America up reeeeeeeally badly. But the people who decided to do it got what they wanted: an excuse to tell voters that progressives can’t win.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points
*

hat was “moderate” party leaders trying to sabotage a progressive at any cost.

Wait, what? I thought Jimmy Carter was considered really progressive for his time. And Ted Kennedy wasn’t some perfect progressive hero, he had some pretty major blemishes on his record like Chappaquiddik. So I always saw it as more pointless infighting than any kind of centrist-vs-progressive showdown like 2016.

Then again, my parents were in high school when all this was going down, so my knowledge is obviously pretty limited, lol.

permalink
report
parent
reply

That was “moderate” party leaders trying to sabotage a progressive at any cost.

Wait, what? I thought Jimmy Carter was considered really progressive for his time. And Ted Kennedy wasn’t some perfect progressive hero, he had some pretty major blemishes on his record like Chappaquiddik. So I always saw it as more pointless infighting than any kind of centrist-vs-progressive showdown like 2016.

Then again, my parents were in high school when all this was going down, so my knowledge is obviously pretty limited, lol.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Who is the moderate and who is the progressive in this?

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 14K

    Monthly active users

  • 16K

    Posts

  • 464K

    Comments