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This is why proprietary software subjugates users. Stallman is right.

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Of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these:
Stallman was right again.

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The browser engine implementing the client side of this is open source. Even the attester could be open source (because good crypto doesn’t need obscurity). Also the server side can be open source. It will still be a DRM and you still can’t do much about it, because you can’t force server/service operators to use the opensource software in a way you want. So if they want to enable WEI, they can do it. No matter if it’s proprietary or open source. Actually it’s even easier when it’s opensource.

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Firefox mother fucker, do you use it?

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Nobody’s going to use it when 90% of the web blocks everything except genuine Chrome on genuine Windows.

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I have hope that the FTC will antitrust those cunts. At least I hope so. I’m not gonna hold my breath though.

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Microsoft put Netscape and Stac out of business and got away scot-free, so yeah, not holding my breath either.

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There would be huge backlash to that but do we know when Google plans to fully push this?

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I’m worried there won’t be much of a backlash.

People as a whole don’t seem to care very much about the bad behavior of these big tech companies.

I hope I’m wrong.

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Everyone going mad and many suggesting “if you have it use Safari instead!” when Apple implemented essentially this same thing quite some time ago in Safari 🤔

That said intentions are important. I have little faith that Big G’s goal is anything other than self servin.

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It’s a very different thing when a browser with negligible market share does that.

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Safari has over 20% browser market share. That isn’t negligible.

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Safari neglegibe? It accounts for about a third of US internet traffic and is the only browser you can even get on iOS (everything else there is forced to be just a reskin)

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Any chance you have a link or source for this? I usually keep up on tech news but don’t remember anything of this nature.

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Thanks, that’s interesting to read about. While I’m not a web developer, there would seem to be two very large differences between them.

  1. The Apple tokens were designed for a single purpose, reducing (or eliminating) CAPCHAs, with mobile devices especially in mind. It also is not a replacement, but rather an enhancement of an existing web standard.

  2. It’s Apple, a company that makes their money by selling you things you actually want. Rather than Google, a company that gives you (or other companies) things (for free or discounted) so they can make money off of you.

It is especially obvious when Google has the literal first bullet-point in their “why we are developing this” as…

This trust is the backbone of the open internet, critical for the safety of user data and for the sustainability of the website’s business.

Followed by

These websites fund themselves with ads, but the advertisers can only afford to pay for humans to see the ads, rather than robots.

So yeah, Google can kindly go pound sand as far as I’m concerned.

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Stallman would disapprove:

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Google plan make people adict of their browser and now they want to dictate web standards!

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That was clear when they launched their browser

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I remember when Chrome launched. It was 2008 and I was in my first year of university. People were commonly using Internet Explorer or Firefox back then, with some outliers (I used Opera). Chrome gained popularity very quickly, since it was a lot faster and lighter weight than anything else at the time.

It’s interesting that Chrome has lived long enough to see itself become the bloated browser.

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