151 points

Just waiting for Trump to not pay this like all his other bills and watch as the legal system decides to fine him for not paying fines because they don’t have the balls to put him in a cell.

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Oh no, not $10,000, he’ll never financially recover from that… oh nevermind some moron just donated more than that to him, he’s fine now.

Seriously, what’s it going to take for them to finally throw him in jail? How many more times does he need to ignore court orders and threaten the safety of jurors, judges, and lawyers before they do something with actual consequences for him? If they’re going to keep fining him they need to add a zero or two on there if they want him to actually stop.

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He could throw him in jail, but he won’t.

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And if he does, his defense and his followers call for an mistrial on bias.

They NEED the case to go through clean

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22 points

Next time he gets two ice creams and a comic book! Way to fucking take the gloves off, judge.

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The supreme court is extremely corrupt. What do you expect from every lower court when the top is bought and paid for by the oligarchy of which Trump is a front man stooge. This is all just a game of distractions created to control the conversation and maintain the lack of laws and protections at the abysmal state they have been in since the 1980’s. The entire point of everything the GOP touches is the loopholes that allow 750 billionaires to rob the country blind. Everyone that aligns with this is either bought and paid for, or a convenient idiot. The clown show distractions all have fixed outcomes secured well in advance. That is why nothing ever comes of the constant barrage of radical headlines. The headline is not the purpose; controlling the rhetoric is the only goal.

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I’ll just leave this here:

https://lemmy.world/post/7331735

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Fines need to scale with the net worth of the person, otherwise they only impact poor people.

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That wouldn’t be very effective. Trump’s net worth is a function of his mood.

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12 points

And the capabilities of whoever he has cooking the books for that particular transaction.

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Well, if it doubles every time, it shouldn’t take too long to reach the point where he can’t pay…

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Fines Doubled

  • $5k
  • $10k
  • $20k
  • $40k
  • $80k
  • $160k
  • $320k
  • $640k
  • $1,208m
  • $2,560m
  • $5,120m
  • $10,240m
  • $20,480m
  • $40,960m
  • $81,920m
  • $163,840m
  • $327,680m
  • $655,360m
  • $1,310,750b

It would take Trump 19 times violating the gag order before hitting a billion dollars. Even if you add up the fines cumulatively, it would take 18 times before Trump had to pay over a billion dollars. A poor person would be crippled by the first fine.

Edit: Counting is hard.

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4 points

You still believe the guy is a billionaire?

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Yeah it would. He’d have to violate it 10 times for the doubling to even pass one hundredth of a billion.

Sounds like you’re severely underestimating the vast gulf between 10,000 and however many billions his creditors are allowing him to have.

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He’s not remotely a billionaire. His whole life is a lie. Everything he’s connected with is over valued and he has a ton of debt. He’s a flim flam man, not a billionaire.

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I agree completely. Problem is that it’s not an oversight, it’s by design. They made it like this and keep it like this on purpose.

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He’s worthless. His asset value is a lie and he has tremendous debt.

He should be in jail.

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I’m pretty sure that regular people would see the inside of a jail cell for breaking a gag order twice, but the guiltiest billionaire since Madoff get fined less than his yearly hamberder budget 🤬

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*Billionaire impersonator

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You say that like Madoff didn’t have to turn himself in because the SEC couldn’t be bothered to look into the books of the DTCC while getting numerous tips about Madoff…

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When the punishment is a fine, it’s only a crime if you’re poor.

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I mean not if the fine fits the crime. A big enough fine can cut the rich even harder than it can the poor. This was not big enough btw.

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I think in some Scandinavian country like Finland there are wealth-proportionate fines. So a rich person could get a $30,000 speeding ticket if they’re not careful.

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Which is still problematic. If I make a million a year and my fine is 10k, that’s less meaningful to them than 300 is to someone who make 30k per year.

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A big enough fine can cut the rich even harder than it can the poor.

I guess, in theory, but I’ve never seen that happen. And even if you did take more from them, it’s only a “deeper cut” in the sense that they fell further to get to broke.

A $10k fine might be more than a poor person’s entire net worth, forcing them into homelessness or extreme poverty.

I’ve never seen a billionaire forced to pay over 100% of their net worth in fines. Hell, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fine over $1B, except by a corporation.

Billionaires only go broke when they mismanage their own money. Jail time isn’t even as big a threat if they are young, as they could well have more money when they come out, where any other Joe Schmo would come out broke and with limited job prospects.

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Sure, it’s certainly better to be rich than to not be. You’re right when you are in the billionaire range it’s pretty damn hard to touch that. But trump is a low end billionaire with lots of financial needs. You start cutting hard into his reserves and businesses could start to collapse, debt can accrue and friends start to dissappear. This pos can’t keep his mouth shut and this is a major case with consequences for US democracy. 10million for any gag breech and we will start to see some behavior change after a couple mistakes.

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