Who would have though that our dear Jens Stoltenberg is a Putin apologist; quote:

“The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition to not invade Ukraine. Of course, we didn’t sign that.

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second-class membership. We rejected that.

So, he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.”

0 points

But Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014

permalink
report
reply
0 points

Don’t forget Cuban crisis where US was prepared to wage nuclear war of Russian nuclear missiles placed in Cuba. Actually we were 5 minutes to end of the world.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

It must be said that the so-called Cuban Missile Crisis was precipitated by the US placing nuclear missiles in Türkiye. It was later resolved by the US withdrawing said missiles.

Of course it’s called the Cuban Missile Crisis because the US writes the propaganda history books.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Yep, I didn’t want to go to deep :)

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

It’s not controversial to say that Putin doesn’t want NATO enlargement, or that preventing it is one of his key goals from invading Ukraine. But I don’t think it’s reasonable to interpret that statement as Stoltenberg saying that wanting to prevent NATO expansion constitutes a legitimate casus belli for invading Ukraine.

Understanding the motivations of people like Putin is important, even if those motivations aren’t morally acceptable.

permalink
report
reply
5 points

I do think the author of that article (intentionally?) misses the point though, and arguably is an apologist - it being a motivation doesn’t mean that without NATO enlargement Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded, Putin has had overt imperialist ambitions toward Ukraine, which NATO membership would have prevented him executing. Therefore NATO expansion was less a cause of the war, than it was a push for him to start the war earlier before Ukraine was within the protection of NATO.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Fuck off Jens

permalink
report
reply
7 points

Apologist? It sounds like NATO standing up for itself and refusing to cave to Putin’s egregious demands.

permalink
report
reply
-4 points

Egregious demands like stop marching your nuclear army, which lacks all democratic accountability and is led by Western European elites, towards the border that Russia was invaded over twice by European elites? Like don’t put nuclear capabilities in our back yard?

Remember when Biden said that Russia will not be allowed to meddle in South America because that’s America’s front yard, were those egregious demands?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

LOL.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply

World News

!worldnews@lemmy.ml

Create post

News from around the world!

Rules:

  • Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc

  • No NSFW content

  • No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc

Community stats

  • 4.8K

    Monthly active users

  • 12K

    Posts

  • 123K

    Comments