79 points

It’s not always about the performance impact…DRM has been known to restrict and prevent legitimate gamers from playing the games meanwhile those that sail the high seas ignore the useless DRM and continue to play.

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I had a CD-burner that was wrecked by DRM, back when they were expensive.

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preventing legitimate gamers from playing a game they bought in anyway is inexcusable to me. I dont even want to sign into your “social club” or download another launcher. If i have to put in one more address and password than necessary I’m much more likely to get an illegitimate copy.

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Of course it won’t show that. Because they’ll be cherry picked to not show that.

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And I’ve seen Steam fanboys on the Steam forums who insist that the rumors of performance problems are baseless. They can go pleasure themselves with rusty cacti.

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Aside from failing to convince me, they have deepened my own conviction that sound cards are essential to maintaining decent framerates.

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Why is this the case? Please elaborate.

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Creative’s dedicated sound cards still make a difference when PCs struggle to sustain 30FPSon certain games, (and can help getting a stable 60FPS) on poorly optimized titles (or games that have been plagued by Denuvo).

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Are you serious?

Now you got me wondering why this is the case…

I wonder if it’s just the drivers. Or something else, like the audio device name, or APOs.

Which game in particular did you have in mind?

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1 point

How is their Linux driver support?

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5 points

What do sound cards have to do with anything?

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Yeah my thoughts exactly. I need an explanation

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2 points

the people have a right to know!

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Sound cards can literally save your performance when your frame rate is -30FPS

And since we’re talking Denuvo here, i thought it was on topic.

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I wouldn’t say that it’s evil, but rather it doesn’t exist for the benefit of players, it exists for the benefit of corporations. They know that it hurts performance in games and prevents a lot of people from playing games that they’ve legitimately purchased, but so long as it’s preventing some piracy they do not care.

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Except it doesn’t prevent any piracy. Pirates strip the DRM away within hours or days, and then the game runs better for the pirates than the paying customers.

So, you have a small window of the game being “protected” but that’s the same window that people on the fence ab out the game wouldn’t have bought it anyway.

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I agree on the point that Denuvo DRM negatively impacts performance but I’m not sure where you got the idea it can get stripped away. Very few games using Denuvo have been cracked, unfortunately it’s very good at its job.

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I admit to being a bit out of the loop on new games/cracks. The last time I look was a couple of years back, when Denuvo was being cracked with zero day exploits.

So, looking it up now, there’s just one cracker left working Denuvo, and the company downloads the cracks themselves and reverse engineers them to make future cracking harder…

Quite the change in three years.

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It is a difficult problem, but there have been a lot of cracked Denuvo games, even in this article, it mentions that about half of the released Denuvo games have been cracked out of a total of 127, that’s not a small amount.

It is true though that Denuvo is complex and there’s currently only one person who has been doing them for a bit and that person is presenting as very very mentally ill and may also be on a break… it’s amazing reading, but it’s hard to tell conclusively what’s up with Empress.

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IT doesn’t need to be good at stopping piracy as long as it stops some piracy, or at least as long as they can sweet talk executives into believing it makes a difference.

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Did you read the article?

It’s not hours to a few days.

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The article is a puff piece about how the company behind Denuvo totally has data that says their root kit doesn’t negatively impact performance.

They assert this with the same sort of confidence that I had back in 3rd grade when I claimed to have a girlfriend, just one that went to a different school and no, you wouldn’t know her.

The interviewer completely ignores the massive amounts of 3rd party data that says, yes, Denuvo is cancer that makes games run like shit while also making it easier to hack people’s computers. Doesn’t bring it up at all.

Now for my part, I had to actually look to other sources to see what the current crack speed was, because I’m not going to trust a puff piece to be honest. I remember plenty of stories about how Denuvo was “uncrackable” and then cracked in literal hours.

Sadly, current crack speeds are much slower than they were just a couple years ago when I had last looked. Only one person is still bothering to crack Denuvo, and the company is constantly downloading the cracks and patching around them.

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Denovo isnt getting cracked in days. Sure Empress cracks it, but they are doing a handful of games per year. Most games with Denovo are years to never cracked.

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Meanwhile, 162 days and counting for dead space.

Doesn’t make me want to buy it, without trying it out first, but saying hours to days for denuvo is…a joke really. Sure there were a couple of games that were cracked in a couple of days, but that’s a handful of them in the last 6 years or so. Most take a long, long time.

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3 points

Scatter shot approach, they DGAF who gets caught up in the crossfire so long as it makes life harder for pirates

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They don’t really care about the effect on pirates, it’s all about being able to sell the illusion of stopping piracy to suit wearing idiots.

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